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PS: There's a global dial in for Adopt a JSR in 2 hours - details: https://blogs.oracle.com/jcp/entry/adopt_a_jsr_program_online Cheers, Martijn On 18 January 2013 14:50, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm looking for the other way around: A java feature (or alternate spec for > a proposed feature) designed by some member of the community - how do you > get that into java? I'm talking about extremely small changes that do not > involve any contentious issues. Simple stuff like: Allow 'Annotation' as a > legal type for annotation member methods, in addition to the already > existing: Any specific annotation type, any primitive, String, Class, any > enum, and a 1-dimensional array of any of those. > > There used to be JSRs (there still are), there is this new JEP thing, there > are various documents that suggest what needs to be done to try and start > the process to get such a change into java itself, but there aren't any > details I can find on who to contact. When contacting people I know at > oracle who are in charge of very similar features, you get the rude > treatment of 'no time' (clearly false as we now know). > > As others have said, 'open source' does not imply the above is possible, but > right now I get the feeling Oracle is trying to paint a picture that it _IS_ > possible to do this given enough support. This picture does not seem to be > realistic. > > Also, the other annotation feature, the one requested by the JavaEE team and > the one where all of a sudden there is time after all, is not going to get > its own JSR, it's going to be shoved into the umbrella JSR. This feels a lot > like a bad habit that US laws have: Big umbrella laws get random pork shoved > in there, so that nobody dares to vote it down, because it's all or nothing. > This too feels like Oracle paying lip service to the idea of community. > > > On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 9:32:19 PM UTC+1, Martijn Verburg wrote: >> >> For those who are interested in contributing to OpenJDK or the various >> JSRs out there and want some support, please do take a look at the JUG lead >> adoptajsr.java.net and adoptopenjdk.java.net projects. We've been quietly >> working away at improving things for day to day developers and we welcome >> all levels of experience. >> >> Cheers, >> Martijn >> >> On Tuesday, 8 January 2013, Fabrizio Giudici wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 19:28:22 +0100, clay <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> What is really wide open about Java is that anyone can write a library, >>>> framework, build system, code analyzer, ide, jvm language, etc, and that >>>> there is a broader community and culture around that. The Java ecosystem >>>> has a really strong track record of success stories: Ant, Maven, JUnit, >>>> Scala, Groovy, Lucene, Hadoop, eclipse, IntelliJ, Jenkins, etc. >>> >>> >>> I pretty much agree with clay - while everybody can disagree on whether >>> the trade-off in the open-closed mix choosed by Oracle for the >>> Java-language-and-VM (for sure we live in a sub-optimal world and as many >>> things it could be better), I think that the most valuable heritage from Sun >>> has been the community and the culture. Of course it wasn't exclusively a >>> merit of Sun, open source existed on its own, but the corporate contributed >>> in giving it a boost. If I think of the common bag of tools, libraries and >>> frameworks that I use, well we get used to that, but it's a very high number >>> of pieces from different sources that fit together and give us a huge number >>> of combinations to pick from. This is somewhat extraordinary and it's one of >>> the things that keep the Java success, in spite of the language slowly >>> evolving. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect @ Tidalwave s.a.s. >>> "We make Java work. Everywhere." >>> http://tidalwave.it/fabrizio/blog - [email protected] >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Java Posse" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >>> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Java Posse" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/javaposse/-/vcKfImgVtbsJ. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
