Good point my friend for sure.  It would naturally take a lot more horse 
power to operate a very human sounding voice as apposed to something that 
was out 20 years ago.  Thanks for stating it so clearly.  We just make the 
best of what is available to us and that's all we can do.  That's why this 
list exists, to help each other out.
David Ferrin
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:45 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: glad to be on the list



How is it so difficult to understand that is the compromise?

It takes a lot more code to be executed and a lot more memory to be accessed
to provide very high quality human sounding speech. This takes time and
computer processor cycles.

There is a reason why super sonic jet fighters are very small and not well
suited to hauling cargo. It might be possible to get similar performance out
of a wide body passenger jet with enough effort but the example of Concord
demonstrates people aren't willing to pay for it.

In this day and age for sure blind people are not willing to pay for that
level of performance, what I constantly hear is that blind people aren't
happy about paying for current levels of performance.

Sorry moderator if this is verging on the limits of list topic. It seems
though that we are unsure about what it is we require from our access
technology, access, versatility, speed, luxury or just what? Be careful what
you wish for. Our scanning and reading software hasn't brought us any real
advances in print reading for at least a decade. It does give us all sorts
of voices and dictionaries and buggy access to already available libraries
which many of us are refused access to but the actual reading capability
depends on other software providers like Abbey.

For my money I would prefer screen access technology which gives me reliable
screen access to all of the functions of my computer and so long as it is
intelligible I'll accept that until the primary functions are achieved. When
we no longer have queries about scripts to be able to use this or that, when
all Web sites are rendered intelligible, when Word or Access or Visual Basic
and other IDES work for us then is the time to worry about absolute language
perfection. Seamless and convenient access is where I prefer Freedom
Scientific to spend their development time and money on.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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Skype DaleLeavens
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From: "Ricque" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 9:43 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: glad to be on the list


>
> Actually, no new voices have been integrated into Jaws.
> Version 8.0 of Jaws shipped on cd with the RealSpeak Solo voices on a
> seperate cd.
> Everyone should be clear on the fact that these voices are not a part of
> the
> Eloquence synthesizer that ships with Jaws.
> The voices available at Nextup.com, are Sappi compliant voices that will
> work with Jaws.
> Sappi is a different synthesizer altogether.
> Now, it would be nice if the Eloquence synthesizer that Jaws uses, could
> incorporate these newer voices, so we could have better speech output,
> with
> the performance of Eloquence.
> I don't have any idea how this would be done, but you would think in this
> modern age of technology, it would be possible.
> HTH,
> Richard Justice
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> From: "Bill Gallik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 7:46 AM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: glad to be on the list
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> Chris asks:
>> will those nextup voices like kate or whatever ever be integrated into
> jaws?  Or at least work with it?  I like the voices a lot.  It's either
> nextup or something...neovoices....*deep sigh*
>
> To answer your question Chris:
>
> The NextUp voices have already been integrated into JAWS 8.  Those voices
> are actually "AT&T Natural Voices" and I've had them on my PC for almost 3
> years although they really drag down the performance of my outdated
> computer.
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> Bill Gallik
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