Hi,
I don't think there is a JAWS version of the beta with the build 9.0.469
publicly available. If I'm wrong, please correct me. I thought the current
build that is publicly available  is 9.0.467, and I just checked for updates
using the check for updates option in the help menu, and I have the latest
version, 9.0.467.
HTH,
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Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 1:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista


Let me be clear since some of you aren't comprehending me.  The problem only

and I repeat only exists on the final beta of Jaws 9.0 build 469.  No 
earlier versions are affected.  Also apperantly it doesn't occur on every 
single machine or possibly some just don't notice it for what ever reason.

Rick


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----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista


Hi,
I've been using JFW since version 3.7 on a windows 98 laptop that was bought
for me by my school. Now, I have a newer laptop running XP and a desktop.
Right now, I'm running JFW 9.0.467 on both machines, and haven't had any
problem.
Oh, here's the versions of JAWS I have used: 3.7 4.02, 4.51, 5.0, 6.0, 6.1,
6.2, 7.0, 7.1, 8.0, and now, 9.0. JAWS 4.02 was the first version I used on
XP on my dad's machine because I didn't have my own desktop at the time.
HTH,
Jeffrey Shockley

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Yes it is.  I talked to someone the other day that told me it hapens on XP
as well.

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----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista


I haven't been following this thread closely, because I don't have VISTA.
Is Eloquence in XP affected in any way with the final release of JAWS 9?
I haven't noticed any difference, using the beta version.


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----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista


> Eric,
>
> in my opinion you should have never let  it ship that way.  I'm very picky
> about how things sound and think it sounds terrible.  I have talked with
> others and they feel the same way as I do.  Now Jaws eloquence sounds as
> bad
> as it does on window eyes in my opinion.  I don't use eloquence with
> window
> eyes and if Jaws 9 ships like you say it will then perhaps I'll stop using
> jaws until the problem is resolved.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>
>
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> From: "Eric Damery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 8:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista
>
>
> Rick,
> This has not changed further than it is in build 467. This is something we
> will continue to work on but in the meantime, for anyone who finds it to
> be
> an issue, we will have them use the 8.0 Eloquence Driver in Vista. I have
> heard the problem you've described but on all the systems in the office we
> have tested, the problem has not been very bad. The increased
> responsiveness
> seems to have far out weighed any down side which is why we put it in the
> release at this point.
>
> For anyone that is experiencing the issue, it is a quick change to put it
> back as you know and we will have a TSN posted.
> Regards,
> Eric
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Rick Harmon
> Sent: Sat 11/17/2007 5:03 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista
>
>
>
> Yes they offered a downgrade to eloquence for jaws  8 to fix it.  I'm
> hopeful they'll fix it for the final release though.
>
> Rick
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "AMTK161" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 4:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Eloquence Problems In Vista
>
>
> I haven't had that degree of problems with Eloquence and JAWS 9.0.467;
> perhaps if FS can't fix the problem they should offer a downgradeable
> version?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 14:16
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 8 and vista home premium
>
>
>> Eloquence sounds like crap now with the rice crispies effect.  I'll take
>> some slowness which I didn't have on my machine over the constant
>> crackling.
>> FS is aware of this problem but dosent' know if it will be resolved in
>> the
>> jaws 9 final or not.  I for one will not be pleased if it's not fixed.
>>
>> Rick
>>
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>> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 3:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 8 and vista home premium
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> JAWS 8.0.2173 (The last JAWS 8.0 release) works with Windows Vista Home
>> Premium.  If possible, I'd recommend upgrading to JAWS 9.0 once the final
>> release comes out...Eloquence is a lot more responsive, and a lot of
>> problems have been fixed.
>>
>> Michael
>> ----- Original Message -----
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>> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 14:02
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 8 and vista home premium
>>
>>
>>> This subject has probably discussed several times.
>>> But I will ask once more.
>>> Does jaws 8 and vista home premium work well together?
>>> I just bought a lap top with vista home premium on it.
>>> Thanks very much.
>>>
>>>
>>> Junior Lolley kg4itd Liberty County E. C.
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