Hi Dave, I am sure we have all been wrong more than one time on any group. Just because you quit using the jaws virtual ribbons years ago, does not mean others cannot try them out for themselves. LOL. Yes, we are all entitled to give out our own opinions on the best ways of Using Jaws. Now if I am wrong about this may David F. correct me. But I think this is correct and OK for all of us to give out our own opinion here on the Jaws users list. I always try to find the easiest and simplest ways to use W-10 with Jaws. Thanks, and Smiles. Again, just my two cents worth, do whatever your heart desires.
-----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave ... Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 2:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ...... Moi? Well, then either that was the one and only time I've been wrong, or as you say, things have changed. Take your pick. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:02 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ...... Guess where I got it from? One of your messages some years ago. But if you posted it, it was right at the time, and probably what you say here explains it. Regardless, Gerald and you posted excellent instructions on how to rid yourself of the virtual ribbon once and for all. Laura is seeing just how strong opinions can be on this list with Jim's new posts. I think he's wrong to say the virtual ribbon makes life easier because shortcuts and first-letter navigation don't work with it. Besides, whenever possible, I would much rather use the options available to everyone and be part of the whole wide world. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave ... Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 11:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ...... Adrian, I was curious about that. However I launched Word and then tried the keystroke. It said "collapsed" and then when pressed again, said "expanded". In either case, the virtual ribbon did not appear. Since I have mine disabled in the settings center, this might have an effect. Perhaps this Ctrl+F1 keystroke is meaningful if the virtual ribbon is enabled? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 07:32 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ...... Control+F1 turns the virtual ribbon on and off. That's what my notes say. I've never done it. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ...... Would you or somebody please tell me how to turn off the virtual ribbon? Laura -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave ... Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 9:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ...... I would turn off the virtual ribbon. It is handy, but you become dependent on them and they don't work as well as the original menus, since they don't use first-letter navigation. I tried them briefly years ago and decided to buckle down and just learn to use the ribbons. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Richardson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 06:58 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ...... Hello, When it comes to navigating MS Word ribbons I'm pretty much a beginner. I've memorized certain shortcut keys to do very specific things but need to learn how to navigate these ribbons. Right now virtual ribbons are turned on .. Would it be easier and more efficient to learn the ribbons if I turned this off? I want and need to learn as much as I can so any feedback and suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Laura For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
