I was looking for a metaphor and that is what popped in to my thinking
processes. It wasn't a good one but it seemed to work to defuse the
situation.
We all are different but we must work together.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave ...
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ......
David, so you are saying that life is a beach?
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ferrin" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 11:51
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ......
Opinions are like pebbles of sand, they are all different. No one is worth
more or less than any other as they all come together to form a beach.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 2:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ......
No, Jim is not wrong. LOL. I have just given my humble opinion on why we
should use the virtual ribbons with Jaws just like all other members have
given their opinions on why not to use the virtual ribbons. Also, I have
given good directions on how to use the word 2016 ribbons with the Jaws
virtual ribbons activated. Why make myself remember a hundred special
keystrokes for word 2016, when VFO gives us the ability to use the virtual
ribbons with Jaws 18. Oh, how this makes life much easier with using Word,
outlook, and excel. Again, I am not demanding from anyone that they must do
it this way. Each of us can decide for ourselves weather we use the Jaws
virtual ribbons or not. So please do not single me out and say my opinion is
wrong over another member opinion. We are all entitled to give our own
opinions out on this group unless things have changed that I am not aware
of. Just my two cents worth. Smiles.
-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 1:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ......
Guess where I got it from? One of your messages some years ago. But if you
posted it, it was right at the time, and probably what you say here explains
it. Regardless, Gerald and you posted excellent instructions on how to rid
yourself of the virtual ribbon once and for all.
Laura is seeing just how strong opinions can be on this list with Jim's new
posts. I think he's wrong to say the virtual ribbon makes life easier
because shortcuts and first-letter navigation don't work with it. Besides,
whenever possible, I would much rather use the options available to everyone
and be part of the whole wide world.
-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Dave ...
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 11:57 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ......
Adrian,
I was curious about that. However I launched Word and then tried the
keystroke. It said "collapsed" and then when pressed again, said "expanded".
In either case, the virtual ribbon did not appear. Since I have mine
disabled in the settings center, this might have an effect. Perhaps this
Ctrl+F1 keystroke is meaningful if the virtual ribbon is enabled?
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 07:32
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ......
Control+F1 turns the virtual ribbon on and off. That's what my notes say.
I've never done it.
-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ......
Would you or somebody please tell me how to turn off the virtual ribbon?
Laura
-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Dave ...
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 9:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ......
I would turn off the virtual ribbon. It is handy, but you become dependent
on them and they don't work as well as the original menus, since they don't
use first-letter navigation. I tried them briefly years ago and decided to
buckle down and just learn to use the ribbons.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laura Richardson" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 06:58
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ......
Hello,
When it comes to navigating MS Word ribbons I'm pretty much a beginner.
I've memorized certain shortcut keys to do very specific things but need to
learn how to navigate these ribbons.
Right now virtual ribbons are turned on .. Would it be easier and more
efficient to learn the ribbons if I turned this off? I want and need to
learn as much as I can so any feedback and suggestions are greatly
appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Laura
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