Re: [JAWS-Users] problems with student word 2007

Fri, 07 May 2010 06:27:28 -0700

Yep, that's why i said on the second option to go down to the choose program option. In both cases, you have to get to the choose programs dialogue, or if its just a one off, as you said just select the program from the submenu, word, wordpad, etc. 
Mo.


Steve wrote:

Mo,
Yeah, this is a much simpler way. One caveat, though. That way doesn't allow you to make the change permanently unless you go down to the choose another program option. There is no checkbox to always apply that action when you use the Open With submenu and choose one of the listed options such as wordpad. You only get the opportunity to make the change permanently if you go to the choose another program option. 

Steve

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mobeen Iqbal" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problems with student word 2007



Hi.
This can also be achieved by doing the following:
First, highlight a text file that you would like to be opened by wordpad instead of another program. Press applications, then go down until you hear open with. If jaws says open with..., and you press enter, you will be presented with a choice of programs to open the text file. In this case, you will want to select wordpad, then press tab to the always use this program to open this type of file check box, and make sure that is checked. Then, press tab to OK. If, however, Jaws says open with submenu, then you will need to press enter to go in to the submenu, then go down to choose program. Then the choose program dialogue as described above will come up, and you will need to select wordpad, check the always use this program to open this type of file checkbox, and click ok. I hope this helps. this method can be used to select an association for any file type. If for any reason your chosen program isn't listed, all you would have to do is tab to the browse button and select it from program files, though i've rarely if ever had to do this. 

Mo.


Steve wrote:

Hi Lloyd,
If you want word pad to open text documents, instead of Microsoft Word 2007, do the following in XP: 

1.  Open your control panel.
2. Go to folder options, by hitting the letter F until you hear folder options. This assumes that you have set the control panel to classic view as is recommended by Jaws and other access trainers.
3. Once you open the folder options, control tab to the file types tab.
4. When this list opens, it will have hundreds of items in it. For example, mine has 459 items. If you hit the letters T and X quickly, you can land on txt files. If you aren't that quick with your fingers, then just hit the letter T until you get to .txt document.
5. With .txt highlighted, tab over to the change button and press spacebar.
6. You will be in a list of programs that can open .txt documents. You want wordpad as your default, from what I recall. You can arrow down until you find WordPad. Then, tab and there will be a checkbox which says always use this program to open this file type. Make sure that box is checked. 

7.  Tab to the Ok button and press enter.
By way of an explanatory note, the file types tab that you are in tells Windows which program to use to handle that specific file extension. It will save these settings until you delete that association. That is why you find a delete button in the list prior to the change button. There is also a New button if you haven't created a specific association between a certain file type and a program.
One might inquire as to why you would change an association? I used to associated all my .zip file extensions with the WinZip program. However, a year ago, I decided to delete that association and now I use Windows XP native unpacking utility instead. I can still use WinZip or another zipping/unzipping utility if I want, but it is not automatically initiated as it would have been when I had the .zip file extension associated with the WinZip program. 

HTH, Lloyd

Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa Riley" <[email protected]> 
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problems with student word 2007
Well, if nothing else you've made me smile. Ok, as I said, the setting should be in the control pannel, which can be found both in the start menu as well as the all-programs menu. Once there you should be able to set 
WordPad as your default Word-Processor/editor.
I am still baffled by Word trying to open your TXT files, but perhaps if your system is quite old and a bit sluggish in general, that may be the 
Occam's Razor, so to speak.
Let me know what you find my friend, and we'll go from there.
Warmly,
Melissa
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of lloydfuge352 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 9:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problems with student word 2007

Yes, Melissa,
I have XP as my OS and am using Jaws 11. My CPU is an old HP desk model 
which has served well for some years and is an old friend.
Patience, I have learned that in practicing law for 37 years and in getting old. I will be happy for any help when you are able; of course, I recognize 
the priority of fun that you will have with finals.
I hope I have answered y;our questions and perhaps I shoould simply apply 
myself more to learning and less to complaining.

Lloyd
----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa Riley" <[email protected]> 
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problems with student word 2007
You have my genuine respect for giving it a go sir. I'll be as much help 
as
I can, I am a single mom and full time student going through finals, so please be patient with any time lapses that may occurr. It isn't because 
I
don't want to help.
Now, What operating system are you using? I ask because that will tell me 
where to direct you to find your default programs setting.  In XP, I
believe
it is in the All Programs menu, or it is in the control pannel. I have 
not
used XP for several years, so don't remember where things are exactly. 
Do a little exploring, and see if you can find it.
As far as the ribbons are concerned, they are frustrating for everyone who 
comes to them from the classic menu style, sighted or not.  They are
merely
icons in a string, so many sighted people are frustrated by them grately. We are at somewhat of an advantage, because at least JAWS tells us what we're looking at, it's not just some abstract picture of say, a pair of binoculars for zooming. They are completely usable though, and many of 
the
old hotkeys are still functional, so finding a list of hotkeys may be of 
use.  I use them frequently, such as control shift P to control and
minnipulate my fonts and style.
Hope this is helpful,
Melissa

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of lloydfuge352 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problems with student word 2007

Thank you for your continued interest; yes all of those programs were
included along with the e-mail and a notebook organizer type of program.
No, I have not tried to reinstall or remedy at all. Once the word program 
has opened a word pad file, it works fine. It simply has a long fight
before
being able to open the word pad file. Frankly, I prefer to have access to the word pad files without interference from word 2007 because it is so 
much
easier for me until I get a better grasp of the 2007 commands; I have not 
used word for more than ten years and am very rusty.
You mention 'default' possibilities; that would be fine by me if I can direct 2007 not to be the default for some time while I am engaged in the learning curve. Melissa, I am eighty years of age, and getting up to speed 
with 2007 may be a while.

It has been my experience that settings often can be fixed to make
programs
more compatible with Jaws and wonder about any such possibility with 2007.
I also mentioned a possibility of finding a tutorial which might help me understand the 'ribbon' and other features. I do have the Reference on 
2007
from the Printing House but could appreciate a little more verbiage in its 
approach.
Sorry to have so much to say and ask. Thanks for your thoughts, and thanks 
for anything more you can add.

Lloyd
----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa Riley" <[email protected]> 
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problems with student word 2007
Have you tried re-installing or repairing this? What other programs did 
it
come with?  I'm assuming Power POint, Xcel, and perhaps Outlook?
Also, what O.S. are you running it on. The reason I'm asking is that it should be causing you any difficulties, that isn't normal behavior. You 
can
set it as the Default program when opening files, which would prevent any 
conflicting programs.
Warmly,
Melissa
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of lloydfuge352 
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 7:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problems with student word 2007
Thank you for your questions. I purchased it through e-bay, it was the suite, it was on a disk. Sorry to have neglected information which may 
help.

Thanks.

Lloyd
----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa Riley" <[email protected]> 
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problems with student word 2007
The Student Word program you purchased, is this Microsoft Word, and did 
you
purchase it from Microsoft, or from somewhere else? Did it come on a 
disc,
or was it a download?  And was it part of the student office suite?
Just some questions to make it easier to help you.
Warmly,
Melissa

-----Original Message-----
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lloydfuge352
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:49 PM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] problems with student word 2007

Hi,
Recently I purchased the student Word program and am having trouble with 
it.
1 are there settings which would make it easier to operate, where could 
I
find such suggestions?
2 when I try to open files made in word pad, this program tries to open 
them
and is very slow at it; is there some way to turn this student Word
program
off when I am working in Word Pad?
Thanks for any help and for any direction to a tutorial on this program. 

I am using XP, and Jaws 11.

Thanks,

Lloyd



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