Well the problem lays with the programmer. The tools are there to make all software and computers useable for those with disabilities. However, those tools are consider extra and use plane functions for buttons and stuff like that. The programmer can still use custom code, but if the accessibility functions are not turned on or used. Then its just pretty code for the eye.
When it comes to programming not much is standard and custom is the thing.
Also not all accessible code is standard. If it was then wineyes and jaws would both be the same. Apple is the only one that put standards that all software for its platform. Must be useable by voice over. The problem there is they don't turn on those features unless asked, but they are there to meet the requirements.

At 11:29 AM 4/12/2011, you wrote:
yeah, i can see that. but why are there so *many* Flash pages on the Web that aren't accessibly coded? And the BBC prides itself on accessibility. (or should I say, prided? After all, their chatter is now almost all about cutbacks.)

----- Original Message ----- From: "tim" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Website problem, New BBC iPlayer


Its working with the flash as its suppose to.
However, the new page given has flash not using accessibility. They just left it out or someone else did the coding.

At 10:33 AM 4/12/2011, you wrote:
There are unlabbelled buttons in the flash content, which JAWS12 sees. Mine called the Play button unlabelled 1 button, and if I press that to pause it becomes unlabelled 2 button. JAWS11 may not be working well enough with this flash content, but in any case it is or appears to be rather unsatisfactory so far.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Cyr" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Website problem, New BBC iPlayer


Good day,
My flash is enabled, and it sounds to me as though you are describing the older, accessible consol which I never had a moments problem with and would like to continue using. The new one is NOT! like that.

I am using Jaws 11, and my problems began Sunday night,, ... I use the BBC site for one reason or another at least six days a week and have for over five years, so please believe me this is recent.

If they work correctly the two links below should take you to the two different listen again pages they are now presenting. The first is the old accessible page, the second the new page where I have not been able to find the buttons that are still there, somewhere.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/b006qj9z/console


http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00zzz1y

----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
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Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Website problem, New BBC iPlayer


You need to have flash enabled, as the page has a lot of that. the
buttons are then read by JAWS. there is the Play/pause button which does
what it says. The timeline button allows you to jump by percentage
increments, the percentage being of the programme's length. There is
also a volume adjust button, and an Adobe Flash popout button. You
didn't say which version of JAWS you're using.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joy Cyr" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 6:28 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Website problem, New BBC iPlayer


Good day,
Has anyone come across the new (and supposedly improved) iPlayer that
the BBC uses to play their radio shows online?  The "old" one uploaded
and showed a simple consol that was easy for Jaws to navigate.  This
new one is displaying a page filled with links, graphics and text. I
had someone sighted take a look and the vital buttons are still there,
and have the same labels: play/pause, volume and timeline, but Jaws
can't find/see them with either cursor.  Could this possibly be a Jaws
setting I need to change?  Or is there a work around that will let me
find them?  Because not being able to hit pause during a three hour
show is a real problem.

If anyone has any help or suggestions to offer I'd be very
appreciative,
Yours sincerely,
Joy
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