I agree that the JFW13 OCR feature does not look like it will be of use for
reading PDF documents that are longer than a screens worth of information,
but I can't even begin to tell you how many times a day at work I receive
e-mails with documents attached that have been scanned in from the
multi-function printer (MFP) and e-mailed directly from the machine.  I have
no idea who it is from, nor do I know what the content of the PDF is.  It
appears that with this new JAWS feature I would at least be able to figure
out what the document is, save and rename it and then use the OpenBook
Freedom Printer.  As much as I hate the third party Band-Aid approach to
resolving software application access issues, I could make use of this
feature.  Now convincing my work to upgrade is another hurdle.

Annette
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dujari, Prateek
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 5:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW 13 OCR

Well I  feel the convenient OCr, as he called it, is not that cool really.
First it purportedly just OCr's the stuff that fits on the window on the PC
screen within the open Adobe PDF file and totally ignores the rest of the
multi page Pdf file. Which means if I need to access the whole doc which is
almost always the case with anyone, u still need to get another expensive
PDF converter/OCR software. And honestly in my case at least, and I'd assume
in most blind people's cases, we already know the topic of any PDF document
we download with an intention and or need to access all of it.  I'd
challenge that most blind people don't just download a PDF file not knowing
at all what the heck it contains. In al such cases the JFW 13 OCr feature
doesn't make any diff really.

Now of course the situation is quite diff if u take a pic of a print
document u have no idea what it is using a camera and save then upload it to
your PC as an image file and then use JFW 13's OCR feature. IN this case yes
its valuable.

IN summary this feature is of any value only and only if you have no clue
what the soft PDF or image file contains.



Prateek

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gena
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 2:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13

Well said.  I agree whole heartedly.  If everything works as he showed in
the podcast, I think this will be the greatest version yet.  I am very
excited.

Cheers, Gena



-----Original Message-----
From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13

The OCR thing is way cool. Especially when Errick read the DVD main menu
with it. Think about it. If JFW 13 when  it does work with Win 8 doesn't
hook like NVDA and System Access do, it'll be So much easyer still to watch
a DVD on your own. Pluss you'll be using WMP which is already easy to use
some what as it is. This will only make it all the more easier. Assuming
JAWS works with out hooking to the Video that is. 
See because since it does that WMP thinks JAWS wants to coppy the disk so
that's why one gets that diolauge about not being able to run the analogue
coppy protection thing. In short, If JAWS doesn't hook to the video in Win
8, and if the OCR can scan DVD menus like it did for Erick, watching movies
will be golden on the PC.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of soner
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FSCast 58 Discusses JAWS 13

OCR feature is indeed an old yet a failed idea trying to be implemented by
Baum of Germany before in its screen reading product called Cobra.
Should Baum sue Freedom then?
:)
Let the joke aside, this is really a great move and as Mr. Mosen puts it
well, a "game changer" in screen reading technology. yet İ wanna pose a big
but about the choice of Freedom's Omnipage as its OCR engine that it is not
the best in the market, as FS guys also may know very well that most of the
blinds over the world having non-FreedomScientific options, use ABBYY Fine
reader which is the pinnacle of the OCR products in the market as of today.
So, a perfect idea with a wrong choice of engin...
P.S: independent reviews juxtaposing the two engins mentioned above can
easily be found with a simple Google search.

Regards

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