Unless one of the files were corrupted and the cause, but yes, definitely worth a try. That saves a lot of tweaking :).

Brad


On 11/19/2011  02:40 PM Negoslav Sabev said...
SORRY TO HEAR THAT it's not working for you.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO EXPERIMENT WITH jaws settings, you don't need to
reinstall  it from scratch. Just make a copy of your user settings folder on
another drive and copy it back if needed. If you want to start from defaults
just delete the contents of the user settings folder. Don't forget to have
copy of it somewhere before changing or deleting.

If you want your voice profiles setting stored, just copy
C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Freedom
Scientific\JAWS\jaws version\Settings\VoiceProfiles.INI

If you don't feel comfortable with this, just relax and let it as it is.

Negoslav
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Dunse'" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternate vioce


Strange. I've done/had all that but Alt Insert Down arrow still produces
nothing. I'm downloading some Real Speak voices to see if that will make a
difference,Probably not.  If not I'll live without it, it's not worth
un-reinstaling Jaws and redoing all the settings. Part of this issue's
origin is non-transferrable settings from earlyer Jaws versions.

Thanks.

Brad



On 11/19/2011  01:26 PM Negoslav Sabev said...
First, the settings are in jaws/options.voices/voice adjustment.
Second, if you adjust the speech synthesizer (alt+l) and choose sapi5, it
will work by pressing insert+down arrow. If you set it  to default  it
works by pressing alt+insert+down arrow.

I can't comment if windows7 voice is the problem - probably not. I use
sapi5 voice and it's ok. I think you just need to press alt+down arrow
with your settings.

Negoslav
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Dunse'"
<[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternate vioce


OK well then I must not have something set correct. But where it is, is
the issue. I can find no place to set the synthesizer for Say All  as the
help described in the Settings Manager. Are we talkking in the Jaws
menus/Options/Voices area? Or the voice profile area with Insert Ctrl S,
which is kind  of one in same?  I hsow Elequnce and one of the SAPI
voices in the latter. But  my choice is to set either one of those as
defaultin the first combo box and then the second combo box is for
default for the particular application I launch the voice profile from. .
Currently Elequence is for both so it ought be  switching to the Sapi
voice with ALT Insert Down arrow, but it doesn't.
 Unless I'm missing it, it would be helpful to have synthesizer/voice
options in the settings manager, as some of the settings are scattered
about making it unsure where to find some of them.

Brad

On 11/19/2011  10:43 AM Negoslav Sabev said...
The option is still alive and kicking.

Right from the jfw 13 help

Voice Adjustment
Say All Group Box
JAWS can immediately switch from one synthesizer, for example, Eloquence
Software, to another, such as SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct, when
using the Say All command (INSERT+DOWN ARROW). While the default
Eloquence voice may be useful for reading and navigating short text such
as prior or next line, sentence, or paragraph, it may not be the
preferred voice for longer passages of text. The SAPI 5 or RealSpeak
Solo Direct voice chosen remains active during the Say All even as you
fast forward, rewind, speed up, or slow down. However, when you stop the
Say All, the Eloquence voice returns.

Use the following controls in the Say All group to set preferences for
how the Say All command works.

Speech Synthesizer
Use this combo box to select the synthesizer used for Say All. Select
either Default, SAPI 5, or RealSpeak Solo Direct. When using Default,
all other controls in the Say All group are unavailable. Also, note that
RealSpeak Solo Direct is only available if you have downloaded and
installed a RealSpeak Solo Direct voice.

If the Say All synthesizer is Default, then either SAPI 5 or RealSpeak
Solo Direct will be used for an Alternate Say All (ALT+INSERT+DOWN
ARROW). If either SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct is selected, the
Default synthesizer is used for Alternate Say All.

Rate
Use this slider to select a comfortable speech rate for the Say All
voice. PAGE DOWN and PAGE UP change the rate of speech by larger
increments, while the UP ARROW and DOWN ARROW keys make more gradual
changes.

Punctuation
Use this list to set the punctuation level used by JAWS when the Say All
voice speaks. Use the UP or DOWN ARROW keys to select a punctuation
level. The options available are None, Some, Most, which is the default,
and All.

Person
The Person combo box lets you to select which SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo
Direct synthesizer voice to use for Say All.

Pitch
The Pitch slider allows you to adjust the pitch for the currently
selected voice. Note that some SAPI5 and RealSpeak Solo Direct
synthesizers do not support pitch change like Eloquence and some other
hardware and software synthesizers.

Volume
Use the slider to increase or decrease the Say All speech volume. The
DOWN ARROW , LEFT ARROW, and PAGE DOWN keys decrease volume, and the UP
ARROW, RIGHT ARROW, and PAGE UP keys increase volume.

OK
This button saves any changes made and then closes the Voice Adjustment
dialog box. This button is not available when changes are made to any
factory default voice profile template. You must use the Save As button
to save any changes made to a factory template.

Save As
Choose this button to save your current voice settings as part of a
voice profile. Type a name for your voice profile or select an existing
profile from the list. If you select an existing profile, that profile's
individual voice settings will be overwritten by the new settings when
you choose OK.

Apply
Use this button to apply and save any changes made to the voice profile
settings without exiting the Voice Adjustment dialog box.

Cancel
When you select this button, any changes you have made are discarded,
and the Voice Adjustment dialog box closes.



Negoslav
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Dunse'" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 3:46 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alternate vioce


>
>>There use to be an option to press Alt Insert Down Arrow to read
>>with an alternate voice such as SAPI instead of your default
>>Elequence, or vice versa. Did they change the hot key or eliminate
>>the option all together? I'd not seen any reference to it in the
>>settings unless I've missed it. It was nice to just quickly read
>>using an alternate voice on some things without changing the reading
>>profile. I'd not seen this option since V11 I think.
>
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