Regions and Language settings for the keyboard shows US English but
good thought. What is strange is, the left ALT key works in every
other situation I've tried, plus this: if you go into help
mode with insert 1, and press Insert + rightAlt key + down arrow,
Jaws help tells you it will read in an alternative voice. If however,
you press insert + leftAlt + down arrow, it says nothing. Conversely,
if you press insert, + either right or left alt key, + "s" key for
instance, the result is the same, gives you the voice profile
box, or help if in help mode. So it appears it is a Jaws issue
specific to that hot key combination somehow rather than a keyboard
or settings issue. I'd not found it an issue anywhere else. I can
live with it, but yes maybe down the road if I get some time, I'll
save my settings somewhere and un-, re-install Jaws and see if that
helps. Appreciate your taking some idea swings at it though.
Brad
On 11/20/2011 07:20 AM Negoslav Sabev said...
Both alt keys are working here. Maybe the keyboard language layout
is messing here. What input language do you use - US? If yes, wich
variant - just US, international. The same logic - UK or somethin else?
Negoslav
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Dunse'" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 10:51 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Solved with question/ was Re: Alternate vioce
Ok mystery solved but still weird. I've always used the left alt
key for this combination, I'd be curious what you use. Jaws is not
recognizing the left alt key in these key combos. The alt key works
by itself and with other non-Jaws key combination hot keys I've set
up for apps and such, but it will not work for this or other Jaws
features. It does work with the right alt key. Additionally I do
not have "differentiate between left and right paired keys" set in
the settings manager so it ought not make a difference.
brad
On 11/19/2011 01:26 PM Negoslav Sabev said...
First, the settings are in jaws/options.voices/voice adjustment.
Second, if you adjust the speech synthesizer (alt+l) and choose
sapi5, it will work by pressing insert+down arrow. If you set
it to default it works by pressing alt+insert+down arrow.
I can't comment if windows7 voice is the problem - probably not. I
use sapi5 voice and it's ok. I think you just need to press
alt+down arrow with your settings.
Negoslav
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Dunse'" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternate vioce
OK well then I must not have something set correct. But where it
is, is the issue. I can find no place to set the synthesizer for
Say All as the help described in the Settings Manager. Are we
talkking in the Jaws menus/Options/Voices area? Or the voice
profile area with Insert Ctrl S, which is kind of one in
same? I hsow Elequnce and one of the SAPI voices in the latter.
But my choice is to set either one of those as defaultin the
first combo box and then the second combo box is for default for
the particular application I launch the voice profile from. .
Currently Elequence is for both so it ought be switching to the
Sapi voice with ALT Insert Down arrow, but it doesn't.
Unless I'm missing it, it would be helpful to have
synthesizer/voice options in the settings manager, as some of
the settings are scattered about making it unsure where to find some of them.
Brad
On 11/19/2011 10:43 AM Negoslav Sabev said...
The option is still alive and kicking.
Right from the jfw 13 help
Voice Adjustment
Say All Group Box
JAWS can immediately switch from one synthesizer, for example,
Eloquence Software, to another, such as SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo
Direct, when using the Say All command (INSERT+DOWN ARROW).
While the default Eloquence voice may be useful for reading and
navigating short text such as prior or next line, sentence, or
paragraph, it may not be the preferred voice for longer passages
of text. The SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct voice chosen
remains active during the Say All even as you fast forward,
rewind, speed up, or slow down. However, when you stop the Say
All, the Eloquence voice returns.
Use the following controls in the Say All group to set
preferences for how the Say All command works.
Speech Synthesizer
Use this combo box to select the synthesizer used for Say All.
Select either Default, SAPI 5, or RealSpeak Solo Direct. When
using Default, all other controls in the Say All group are
unavailable. Also, note that RealSpeak Solo Direct is only
available if you have downloaded and installed a RealSpeak Solo Direct voice.
If the Say All synthesizer is Default, then either SAPI 5 or
RealSpeak Solo Direct will be used for an Alternate Say All
(ALT+INSERT+DOWN ARROW). If either SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo
Direct is selected, the Default synthesizer is used for Alternate Say All.
Rate
Use this slider to select a comfortable speech rate for the Say
All voice. PAGE DOWN and PAGE UP change the rate of speech by
larger increments, while the UP ARROW and DOWN ARROW keys make
more gradual changes.
Punctuation
Use this list to set the punctuation level used by JAWS when the
Say All voice speaks. Use the UP or DOWN ARROW keys to select a
punctuation level. The options available are None, Some, Most,
which is the default, and All.
Person
The Person combo box lets you to select which SAPI 5 or
RealSpeak Solo Direct synthesizer voice to use for Say All.
Pitch
The Pitch slider allows you to adjust the pitch for the
currently selected voice. Note that some SAPI5 and RealSpeak
Solo Direct synthesizers do not support pitch change like
Eloquence and some other hardware and software synthesizers.
Volume
Use the slider to increase or decrease the Say All speech
volume. The DOWN ARROW , LEFT ARROW, and PAGE DOWN keys decrease
volume, and the UP ARROW, RIGHT ARROW, and PAGE UP keys increase volume.
OK
This button saves any changes made and then closes the Voice
Adjustment dialog box. This button is not available when changes
are made to any factory default voice profile template. You must
use the Save As button to save any changes made to a factory template.
Save As
Choose this button to save your current voice settings as part
of a voice profile. Type a name for your voice profile or select
an existing profile from the list. If you select an existing
profile, that profile's individual voice settings will be
overwritten by the new settings when you choose OK.
Apply
Use this button to apply and save any changes made to the voice
profile settings without exiting the Voice Adjustment dialog box.
Cancel
When you select this button, any changes you have made are
discarded, and the Voice Adjustment dialog box closes.
Negoslav
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Dunse'" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 3:46 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alternate vioce
>
>>There use to be an option to press Alt Insert Down Arrow to read
>>with an alternate voice such as SAPI instead of your default
>>Elequence, or vice versa. Did they change the hot key or eliminate
>>the option all together? I'd not seen any reference to it in the
>>settings unless I've missed it. It was nice to just quickly read
>>using an alternate voice on some things without changing the reading
>>profile. I'd not seen this option since V11 I think.
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