ok, what you want to find in those files is inbox.mdb
but it has to be the one that is in your backup folder/files or your finding
the empty one that is currently in your outlook express, when you find that
let me know

elf

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rich Hamel
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:52 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major e mail issue with outlook express

The McAfee back up is "on line" back up.
When the files were finally recovered and downloaded, I could not find where

they were saved to.
I believe the messages are DBX?
I did find "Back up" files in ,"my computer",  under McAfee back up and, 
after sifting through the options I found, "in box",  under "identity".
When I click on a file to open, I get a message asking if I want to override

or rename the existing file?
I am not sure if the file is one of the backed up files I've been looking 
for, since I can't open it.

Thanks so much.

Rich
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "inthaneelf" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:13 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major e mail issue with outlook express


> ok, I'm not sure why it went flam bouie, sometimes things like hard 
> shutdown
> or what i call a "cold kill" can corrupt files that are in operation, 
> which
> you had two front page heavys along with all the background stuff.
>
> ok but since you were using outlook express and you have a backup of your
> drive, if its a whole drive backup, you should be able to salvage a big 
> hunk
> of your messages.
>
> i know your using McAfee, but what one, and where are your backup files
> saved to, and do you know what format there in, a .exe, a .zip, a.maf, 
> what?
>
>
> then we need to find out if there a full drive save, or a partial
>
> inthane
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rich Hamel
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:58 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major e mail issue with outlook express
>
> I had I.E and O.E trying to come up but when the pc froze, I hit the
> alt/control/delete  button since alt F4 did not work.
> Maybe, the alt/control/delete  effected the O.E?
>
> I then had to hard boot the pc to shut it down.
>
> Rich
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "inthaneelf" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 5:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major e mail issue with outlook express
>
>
>> ok, hmmm
>>
>> in your original message you said the following:
>>> My pc froze up as I was trying to start up my e mail in internet
>>> explorer.
>> and:
>>> When I turned it back on and went to O.E., the in box said "closed" and,
>> my in box and spam folder were empty.
>> and something like ""and so was the deleted items folder""
>>
>> this makes things a bit confusing to me, are you using O.E. to access a
>> web
>> Email account, or did I.E. and O.E. get confused in the message 
>> somewhere?
>>
>> the second thing is, you a bit later said:
>>> I do run a back up with McAfee.
>>
>> ok, but what type of backup and to where are your files backed up to, the
>> online storage system site, to another drive, ?
>>
>> before I try to clarify, I need more accurate information, if you used
>> I.E.
>> the files are probably gone, with O.E. and a backup you should easily be
>> able to get your files back, or most of them, depending on what is backed
>> up
>> by the program your using.
>>
>> I use a file and folder backup and synchronization so I added the backup
>> program I mentioned to you to make sure I had a backup of my emails
>> without
>> any hassle. I would recommend getting it JIC. it can save a backup file 
>> in
>> your "my documents" folder and replace lost emails and there accounts 
>> with
>
>> a
>> few minutes of simple clicking.
>>
>> give me neater info and between your MacAfee techs and us out here we can
>> do
>> our best.
>>
>> and since what I do out here is post to, gather from, and repost to (with
>> an
>> occasional bit of finding it out added in) information on 8 lists
>> currently,
>> or maybe its 9 now, I lost count, I know what a bad crash or a disk
>> failure
>> can mean in the area of information loss! triple backup, ah yep, there's
>> nothing like triple backups of your stuff!
>>
>> sincerely,
>> inthane
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rich
>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 5:33 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major e mail issue with outlook express
>>
>> Inthaneelf, thank your   for your help.
>> I have to admit, I am a good bit behind the technical curve however.
>> I got lost when you started talking about a "back up" drive.
>> I don't think I have one, or, I don't know what that is.
>> I do have McAfee which has a back up feature and I am currently working
>> with
>>
>> their technical support to help recover the files.
>> Also; I have downloaded a free  program to recover O E e mails.
>> This has not proved to be much helpful either, in that, many of the
>> recovered files are empty.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> Rich
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "inthaneelf" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 7:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major e mail issue with outlook express
>>
>>
>>> ok, I'm a bit behind so am going to send this along just in case.
>>>
>>> what you need to do (and i can only hope you can), is:
>>> 1. open O.E.
>>> 2. go to the tools menu and then to options and enter on it.
>>> 3. in here control tab to the maintence tab, in here you should have a
>>> button marked "save folder" or something like this.
>>> enter on that, and shift tab into the edit box with the huge path in it,
>>> (this is where your folders are stored, hit home, hit control shift and
>>> end
>>> to select the whole thing and control c to copy it.
>>> 4. paste the address you just copied into note pad.
>>>
>>> now then this is where we start the preyare wheel spinning and hope the
>>> planets are in a good alignment!
>>>
>>> this should be the location where the database files that hold your
>>> messages
>>> and the like were being stored (if it turns out to not be the case we
>>> will
>>> attack that if/when we need to)
>>> so:
>>> 5. get your backup drive running
>>> 6. depending on how your backups are stored, will make this tricky, if
>>> its
>>
>>> a
>>> image, it will probably be an iso image, if so you will need a
>>> application
>>> to "mount" or give you access to, the information stored in the image, 
>>> if
>>> its in zip files youll need to unzip the one that has your c drive on 
>>> it,
>>> with the main sections in it. (look at that path, it will tell you what
>>> you
>>> need to find and have access to)
>>> if you have a direct copy of the drive, thats phonomal, replace the C at
>>> the
>>> beginning of your path with the backup drive letter and paste it into 
>>> the
>>> run dialog box
>>>
>>> whatever means you need to employ, you need to make it so you can get to
>>> that place in the backup where your files are stored that corrasponds
>>> with
>>> the original path you copied!
>>> 6. when you get to this location, copy all the .dbm files you will find
>>> there, there will be a number of them!
>>>
>>> 7. Now, make sure that you totally close out O.E.
>>> not minimized, not held in reserve in the system tray, closed!
>>> 8. go to the location on your original path that you copied (if you
>>> changed
>>> the C: to the backup drive letter, change it back now) and paste the
>>> files
>>> into this location, and say yes to all the replacements (xp has that 
>>> nice
>>> yes to all, use it!)
>>> 9. when all has copied, close out the backup drive, and restart your
>>> computer.
>>>
>>> 10. open O.E. and take a look, it should have all your email files up to
>>> the
>>> point of your last backup in place now.
>>>
>>>
>>> sorry i don't know how to get more back, a tool like disk digger, or 
>>> more
>>> superior file retrieval tools might be able to get them, but i don't 
>>> know
>>> and can garentee nothing
>>>
>>> i used to use a application called E-backup that is available from:
>>> www.jfwlite.com/programs
>>> along with the jaws scripts there for it (yes there still working and
>>> have
>>> been up to jaws 13 on windows XP)
>>> it makes a seperate backup in a single file that it (the application
>>> which
>>
>>> i
>>> kept on a disk) can install along with your internet explorer favorites
>>> folder. and makes email retrieval a much faster and simpler deal.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> inthane
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rich
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:10 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major e mail issue with outlook express
>>>
>>> I went to the web mail and the messages were not there.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Rich
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Sugar" <[email protected]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major e mail issue with outlook express
>>>
>>>
>>>> hi Rich
>>>> I would go to the web if I was you, most likely  they are there. I 
>>>> don't
>>>> know what to tell you, I use outlook express and love it, but i also 
>>>> use
>>>> xp, but with jaws 11,and windows office 2007 on my lap top and windows
>>>> office 2010,jaws 11,xp and express on my lap top
>>>> As long as it works great for me, I am not changeing.
>>>> Good luck and hope it gets fixed for you.
>>>> Sugar
>>>>
>>>> 'Real tears are not those that fall from your eyes and cover your face,
>>>> but that fall from your heart and cover your soul.'
>>>> ~Blessings be poured upon you-
>>>> Sugar
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Rich" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:18 PM
>>>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major e mail issue with outlook express
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have XP and 13.0.
>>>>> My pc froze up as I was trying to start up my e mail in internet
>>>>> explorer.
>>>>> No keys worked so I hit the alt/control/delete key, and nothing 
>>>>> worked.
>>>>> So I had to hard boot the pc off.
>>>>> When I turned it back on and went to O.E.,the in box said "closed" 
>>>>> and,
>>>>> my in box and spam folder were empty.
>>>>> There was nothing in the deleted folder either.
>>>>> I do run a back up with McAfee.
>>>>> What would be the best way to recover these important messages?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have not checked on the web on my web mail account through AT&T yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rich
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