oops, ok, giant brain fart on that one, yes the gent is correct and i was ?
hmmm, i have no clue where my brain was at that moment

apologies
inthane

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 7:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major e mail issue with outlook express

The extension is .dbx in outlook Express. thus, it will be Inbox.dbx in 
the backup files.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "inthaneelf" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major e mail issue with outlook express


> ok, what you want to find in those files is inbox.mdb
> but it has to be the one that is in your backup folder/files or your 
> finding
> the empty one that is currently in your outlook express, when you find 
> that
> let me know
>
> elf
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rich 
> Hamel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:52 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major e mail issue with outlook express
>
> The McAfee back up is "on line" back up.
> When the files were finally recovered and downloaded, I could not find 
> where
>
> they were saved to.
> I believe the messages are DBX?
> I did find "Back up" files in ,"my computer",  under McAfee back up 
> and,
> after sifting through the options I found, "in box",  under 
> "identity".
> When I click on a file to open, I get a message asking if I want to 
> override
>
> or rename the existing file?
> I am not sure if the file is one of the backed up files I've been 
> looking
> for, since I can't open it.
>
> Thanks so much.
>
> Rich
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "inthaneelf" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major e mail issue with outlook express
>
>
>> ok, I'm not sure why it went flam bouie, sometimes things like hard
>> shutdown
>> or what i call a "cold kill" can corrupt files that are in operation,
>> which
>> you had two front page heavys along with all the background stuff.
>>
>> ok but since you were using outlook express and you have a backup of 
>> your
>> drive, if its a whole drive backup, you should be able to salvage a 
>> big
>> hunk
>> of your messages.
>>
>> i know your using McAfee, but what one, and where are your backup 
>> files
>> saved to, and do you know what format there in, a .exe, a .zip, 
>> a.maf,
>> what?
>>
>>
>> then we need to find out if there a full drive save, or a partial
>>
>> inthane
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rich 
>> Hamel
>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:58 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major e mail issue with outlook express
>>
>> I had I.E and O.E trying to come up but when the pc froze, I hit the
>> alt/control/delete  button since alt F4 did not work.
>> Maybe, the alt/control/delete  effected the O.E?
>>
>> I then had to hard boot the pc to shut it down.
>>
>> Rich
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "inthaneelf" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 5:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major e mail issue with outlook express
>>
>>
>>> ok, hmmm
>>>
>>> in your original message you said the following:
>>>> My pc froze up as I was trying to start up my e mail in internet
>>>> explorer.
>>> and:
>>>> When I turned it back on and went to O.E., the in box said "closed" 
>>>> and,
>>> my in box and spam folder were empty.
>>> and something like ""and so was the deleted items folder""
>>>
>>> this makes things a bit confusing to me, are you using O.E. to 
>>> access a
>>> web
>>> Email account, or did I.E. and O.E. get confused in the message
>>> somewhere?
>>>
>>> the second thing is, you a bit later said:
>>>> I do run a back up with McAfee.
>>>
>>> ok, but what type of backup and to where are your files backed up 
>>> to, the
>>> online storage system site, to another drive, ?
>>>
>>> before I try to clarify, I need more accurate information, if you 
>>> used
>>> I.E.
>>> the files are probably gone, with O.E. and a backup you should 
>>> easily be
>>> able to get your files back, or most of them, depending on what is 
>>> backed
>>> up
>>> by the program your using.
>>>
>>> I use a file and folder backup and synchronization so I added the 
>>> backup
>>> program I mentioned to you to make sure I had a backup of my emails
>>> without
>>> any hassle. I would recommend getting it JIC. it can save a backup 
>>> file
>>> in
>>> your "my documents" folder and replace lost emails and there 
>>> accounts
>>> with
>>
>>> a
>>> few minutes of simple clicking.
>>>
>>> give me neater info and between your MacAfee techs and us out here 
>>> we can
>>> do
>>> our best.
>>>
>>> and since what I do out here is post to, gather from, and repost to 
>>> (with
>>> an
>>> occasional bit of finding it out added in) information on 8 lists
>>> currently,
>>> or maybe its 9 now, I lost count, I know what a bad crash or a disk
>>> failure
>>> can mean in the area of information loss! triple backup, ah yep, 
>>> there's
>>> nothing like triple backups of your stuff!
>>>
>>> sincerely,
>>> inthane
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rich
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 5:33 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major e mail issue with outlook express
>>>
>>> Inthaneelf, thank your   for your help.
>>> I have to admit, I am a good bit behind the technical curve however.
>>> I got lost when you started talking about a "back up" drive.
>>> I don't think I have one, or, I don't know what that is.
>>> I do have McAfee which has a back up feature and I am currently 
>>> working
>>> with
>>>
>>> their technical support to help recover the files.
>>> Also; I have downloaded a free  program to recover O E e mails.
>>> This has not proved to be much helpful either, in that, many of the
>>> recovered files are empty.
>>>
>>> Thanks again.
>>>
>>> Rich
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "inthaneelf" <[email protected]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 7:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major e mail issue with outlook express
>>>
>>>
>>>> ok, I'm a bit behind so am going to send this along just in case.
>>>>
>>>> what you need to do (and i can only hope you can), is:
>>>> 1. open O.E.
>>>> 2. go to the tools menu and then to options and enter on it.
>>>> 3. in here control tab to the maintence tab, in here you should 
>>>> have a
>>>> button marked "save folder" or something like this.
>>>> enter on that, and shift tab into the edit box with the huge path 
>>>> in it,
>>>> (this is where your folders are stored, hit home, hit control shift 
>>>> and
>>>> end
>>>> to select the whole thing and control c to copy it.
>>>> 4. paste the address you just copied into note pad.
>>>>
>>>> now then this is where we start the preyare wheel spinning and hope 
>>>> the
>>>> planets are in a good alignment!
>>>>
>>>> this should be the location where the database files that hold your
>>>> messages
>>>> and the like were being stored (if it turns out to not be the case 
>>>> we
>>>> will
>>>> attack that if/when we need to)
>>>> so:
>>>> 5. get your backup drive running
>>>> 6. depending on how your backups are stored, will make this tricky, 
>>>> if
>>>> its
>>>
>>>> a
>>>> image, it will probably be an iso image, if so you will need a
>>>> application
>>>> to "mount" or give you access to, the information stored in the 
>>>> image,
>>>> if
>>>> its in zip files youll need to unzip the one that has your c drive 
>>>> on
>>>> it,
>>>> with the main sections in it. (look at that path, it will tell you 
>>>> what
>>>> you
>>>> need to find and have access to)
>>>> if you have a direct copy of the drive, thats phonomal, replace the 
>>>> C at
>>>> the
>>>> beginning of your path with the backup drive letter and paste it 
>>>> into
>>>> the
>>>> run dialog box
>>>>
>>>> whatever means you need to employ, you need to make it so you can 
>>>> get to
>>>> that place in the backup where your files are stored that 
>>>> corrasponds
>>>> with
>>>> the original path you copied!
>>>> 6. when you get to this location, copy all the .dbm files you will 
>>>> find
>>>> there, there will be a number of them!
>>>>
>>>> 7. Now, make sure that you totally close out O.E.
>>>> not minimized, not held in reserve in the system tray, closed!
>>>> 8. go to the location on your original path that you copied (if you
>>>> changed
>>>> the C: to the backup drive letter, change it back now) and paste 
>>>> the
>>>> files
>>>> into this location, and say yes to all the replacements (xp has 
>>>> that
>>>> nice
>>>> yes to all, use it!)
>>>> 9. when all has copied, close out the backup drive, and restart 
>>>> your
>>>> computer.
>>>>
>>>> 10. open O.E. and take a look, it should have all your email files 
>>>> up to
>>>> the
>>>> point of your last backup in place now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sorry i don't know how to get more back, a tool like disk digger, 
>>>> or
>>>> more
>>>> superior file retrieval tools might be able to get them, but i 
>>>> don't
>>>> know
>>>> and can garentee nothing
>>>>
>>>> i used to use a application called E-backup that is available from:
>>>> www.jfwlite.com/programs
>>>> along with the jaws scripts there for it (yes there still working 
>>>> and
>>>> have
>>>> been up to jaws 13 on windows XP)
>>>> it makes a seperate backup in a single file that it (the 
>>>> application
>>>> which
>>>
>>>> i
>>>> kept on a disk) can install along with your internet explorer 
>>>> favorites
>>>> folder. and makes email retrieval a much faster and simpler deal.
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>> inthane
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rich
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:10 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major e mail issue with outlook express
>>>>
>>>> I went to the web mail and the messages were not there.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Rich
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Sugar" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:26 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Major e mail issue with outlook express
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> hi Rich
>>>>> I would go to the web if I was you, most likely  they are there. I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> know what to tell you, I use outlook express and love it, but i 
>>>>> also
>>>>> use
>>>>> xp, but with jaws 11,and windows office 2007 on my lap top and 
>>>>> windows
>>>>> office 2010,jaws 11,xp and express on my lap top
>>>>> As long as it works great for me, I am not changeing.
>>>>> Good luck and hope it gets fixed for you.
>>>>> Sugar
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Real tears are not those that fall from your eyes and cover your 
>>>>> face,
>>>>> but that fall from your heart and cover your soul.'
>>>>> ~Blessings be poured upon you-
>>>>> Sugar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Rich" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:18 PM
>>>>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Major e mail issue with outlook express
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have XP and 13.0.
>>>>>> My pc froze up as I was trying to start up my e mail in internet
>>>>>> explorer.
>>>>>> No keys worked so I hit the alt/control/delete key, and nothing
>>>>>> worked.
>>>>>> So I had to hard boot the pc off.
>>>>>> When I turned it back on and went to O.E.,the in box said 
>>>>>> "closed"
>>>>>> and,
>>>>>> my in box and spam folder were empty.
>>>>>> There was nothing in the deleted folder either.
>>>>>> I do run a back up with McAfee.
>>>>>> What would be the best way to recover these important messages?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have not checked on the web on my web mail account through AT&T 
>>>>>> yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for any help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rich
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