First of all, no need to reboot your computer when firefox crashes. Hit ctrl-alt-escape, find the firefox in applications, hit the applications/context key on it and choose end task.

Second of all, having used both firefox and ie9, I'd say that ie9 gives more information on webpages where there is any difference at all. I have yet to find one that is more accessible with firefox. If you are having a lot of crashes with firefox as your default browser, caused by clicking on links, you might want to change to ie as the default. You can download ff17.x off of mozilla's ftp site, you have to dig for it though. If it weren't for a couple of plugins that allow me to block ads and control what javascript I wish to allow, along with how it deals with rss, I'd use internet explorer instead of firefox. I've used firefox for many years, so I don't say that lightly. I have yet to try the release version of ff19, but the beta crashed just like ff18 did.



On 2/21/2013 05:49, Sharon Gosling wrote:
I guess this sounds like I just have to put up with the IE 9 as a
default since most of the freezes occur when clicking links in email.
One I especially remember is a Kim Komando page that led to another page
and then the youtube link yesterday.  There were others I remember from
Lookout Mobile Security.  Can't remember them all.
The most aggravating part is to have to restart the computer to shut
down Firefox.  The computer doesn't freeze, just Firefox.
I could still use more advice if anyone has any ideas.  I know there are
many avid Firefox users on this list.
I presume that to roll back to Firefox 17 I would have to remove FF 19.
But where would I get 17.  And is 17 the best version for Jaws users? In
old emails I had read about really low versions but it seems like they
would have many security holes as newer versions of browsers generally
have better security.

Using a different link for youtube would not help me since I never go to
youtube and search for videos.  I click links from friends that take me
to interesting youtube videos.
If I keep IE 9 as the default I may never realize how much more
accessible the page might be on Firefox.  Now, I only try Firefox when I
know there are form fields or other information I know should be there.
I imagine there is a great deal more information that I don't even
realize I am missing using IE 9.
If others experience similar problems then perhaps I should contact Jaws
or Firefox about it.
Actually I was amazed at how inferior IE 9 was using Jaws.
Sherrie Gosling




-----Original Message----- From: Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox freezing with Jaws 14

Definitely happens with youtube, that happens with all screen readers
and flash.  You could try the html5 version of youtube at
www.youtube.com/html5.  As far as the other freezes go, I've found that
the best I could do was to go back to ff17 and force it to not update
automatically.  I guess I should try out 19 to find out if it is any
better, but I kinda hate to break what is working.



On 2/20/2013 14:29, Sharon Gosling wrote:
I have always been a dedicated IE user but recently I have found that
websites that I need to sign in on or otherwise interact with on IE 9
don’t even show the form boxes so I have started using Firefox for
these sites. I have been able to sign in with Firefox so I wanted to
make Firefox my default browser. But Firefox constantly freezes
totally when it says it is being redirected to a different website. It
says to press alt A or control A to proceed but this doesn’t work. It
stops and only reads the title of the website. It will not close at
all. I have tried Alt F4 and tried going to file menu or using Jaws
cursor. Nothing helps or allows me to close the window. I have to do a
forced restart of the whole computer. I can’t even open a new tab of
Firefox to finish what I was doing. Today it happened when I clicked
on a youtube link. When I alt tab away from the frozen Firefox window
and then back it only reads the title of the page.
I have Win 7 home premium 64 bit, Jaws 14 and Firefox 19.0.
I have been slow to convert to Firefox but now I really want to use it
out of necessity and it constantly freezes. I don’t know what is
showing on the screen but in the window list is says minimized. Tried
the alt space and x to maximize the window but no response. Jaws
cursor does nothing either.
I would really appreciate some advice from the group.
IE 9 seems to do less and less for me and now comparing the same
windows on IE and on Firefox it is really incredible that Firefox
makes the websites so much more accessible. So I need Firefox!!
Help, please.
Sherrie Gosling
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