hello Mike,

In my message I meant to say insert with the number 5. The rest of the message 
still applies. I think the bottom line is that there is a problem with the JAWS 
application giving the correct foreground  and background color and the 
incorrect RGB values. When I used the attributes with color scheme I did get 
better results but not always.

Take care.



Brian Lee
[email protected]

> On Jul 7, 2014, at 1:30 PM, "Mike B." <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> Try the keystroke, Insert + 5, & not, Insert + F5, & see if that keystroke 
> will report the colors correctly.
> 
> Take care.
> Mike
> This email was sent from my, iBarstool.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Brian Lee
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 1:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background & Foreground colors
> 
> 
> Hello Mike,
> 
> The insert F5 does not seem to be working correctly.  I am not using Outlook
> Express but Outlook 2013 but this seems to be true in Word as well.  If you
> hold down insert and press F5 twice you will hear 18 zeros.  The first nine
> are for the RGB value for the foreground color and the second set of nine
> digits is for the RGB values of the background color.  For a black character
> on a default white background the values should be nine zeros and nine
> digits with 255 as their value.  However, if you change to the Attributes
> and Color scheme and use up arrow when you are on a top line of text you
> hear that the background is white even though insert with F5 says black on
> black.  If you type some text and change it to the default white font color
> when you check the RGB values they might still indicate all black but if you
> select the white text and check the RGB values in the custom color box for
> font color the RGB is then given correctly for the white color.
> 
> When using the Attributes and color scheme if I use CTRL with Home to move
> to the top of this message and then use up arrow key I am told that there is
> a white background.  It does appear that the insert F5 is not working.  Also
> with the Attributes and Color scheme if I read current line I am told there
> is a white background.  Therefore, the reporting of nine zeros for the
> background white color is not right.
> 
> Take care.
> 
> Brian Lee
> [email protected]
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Mike B.
> Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 10:26 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background & Foreground colors
> 
> Howdy Rick,
> 
> Yes, that's what I noticed here as well.  Thank you very much for the
> verification.
> Take care.
> Mike
> This email was sent from my, iBarstool.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rick Justice
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background & Foreground colors
> 
> 
> Hi Mike,
> The same condition is true here.
> The version of Jaws 13 thru 15 doesn't make any difference.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike B." <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background & Foreground colors
> 
> 
> Good Morning Rick,
> 
> These are my current settings.  With a new message open & while in the
> message edit field, I pressed, Alt + O, for the format menu.  For style I
> have normal checked, Font is set on black,
> background is set for white, Incoding is Western European Windows, & rich
> text HTML is checked.  This is how my emails are all supposedly set.  While
> typing
> this message & I press, Insert + 5, Jaws reports black on black but, once
> sent & received, if I invoke the, Insert + 5, keystroke on the open /
> received
> message black on white is reported.  So, I'm not sure if what Jaws reports
> can be trusted or not.  I'll have to get my wife & other sighted people I
> know
> to keep an eye on my messages & report back to me if any of them are not
> readable.  Any input about changing background / foreground colors in IE or
> Windows
> Explorer would be appreciated.  Thank you very much for your reply.
> 
> Take Care.
> Mike
> This email was sent from my iBarstool.
> 
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Rick Justice
>  To: [email protected]
>  Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 5:25 AM
>  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background & Foreground colors
> 
> 
>  Hi Mike,
>  From what I just found, it appears that you need to send your message in
>  "rich text HTML" format in order to change the background color.
>  While in an open message, choose the format menu, make sure that "rich
> text
>  format" is checked and then open the background sub-menu, and then choose
>  color from the 3 available options.
>  No first letter navigation in the list of colors, so you will just have
>  arrow to white, and then hit enter to check the box.
>  I believe that the text color is determined by the O/S, and cannot be
>  changed.
>  Unless I don't understand what foreground and background colors that Jaws
> is
>  reporting, I would say that it is reporting it incorrectly, which may be a
>  bug in Jaws or some type of setting.
>  It reports the same to me whether I am in a plain text  or html message,
> and
>  my background color is set to white for rich text format.
>  I am running Jaws 15 latest build, Win 7.
>  HTH,
>  Rick Justice
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "Mike B." <[email protected]>
>  To: "Jaws-Users List" <[email protected]>
>  Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 7:45 AM
>  Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing Background & Foreground colors
> 
> 
>  Hi All,
> 
>  I'm running Win7, Outlook Express, & J15.  I noticed that background &
>  foreground colors in new messages are reported as black on black.  How can
> I
>  or, where do I go to change this to black on white?  All help will be
>  greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
> 
>  Take Care.
>  Mike
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