Due to the fact that I used many keystrokes in Word from 97 to 2003, Jaws virtual ribbons eventually annoyed me because I could not use the keystrokes I already knew. After about 30 days of using the feature I turned it off again so I could use those keystrokes I already knew and use the ribbons for the more obscure things I did not use on a regular basis. It is a great idea for those new to office or those who use it seldom but not for someone who knows even just a few keystrokes they use regularly such as center, left and right justify, etc. I wish we could go back to the drop down menus, true, but, we are a minority of folks, so we have to learn to deal with the ribbons eventually as they do supposedly make it a lot easier for mousers. They are a Microsoft staple now, so learn to deal with them as soon as possible. They will show up in newer versions of Windows, office products, e-mail products etc. We may wish differently but supply and dement is the byword here, we don't rule when it comes to public wishes or company decisions. It would be wonderful if we had the choice to use old-style in the products themselves but we don't so use the virtual ribbons in Jaws or those Microsoft has provided, learn the shortcuts you use most often or use the Jaws menus or the ribbons, which ever makes you feel most productive. I feel more productive using the combinations I have known by heart since 1998, others may feel more comfortable with going down through the Jaws menus and finding what they need. As I said initially I thought it was a wonderful feature but after a month of using in in 2010 when it was introduced, I switched back to the ribbons so I could be competitive and productive in my own way.
Jaws Help does have instructions at least to help you learn the newer ribbon usage. I don't know all the keystrokes either but I do know several that I used daily for the past five years and found others that I might use only once a month or a year when needed. Each to their own, but the ribbons, much as many of us would like them to, are not going away. Rose Combs [email protected] A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory! -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bissett, Tom Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010? I always use the jaws virtual ribbon, I can never remember all the keystrokes. With the virtual ribbon it feels much like the old menus. Even though it is new and takes a little getting used to I really have no issues with it. Tom Bisset -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010? That's encouraging. "Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford. Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimsan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010? >I hated the ribbons the first time I was introduced to them. > > Another list member here was actually my trainer for it and if memory > serves, I think he wanted to pull out his hair lol > However, I hated it because it was "new" but after I left his training > sessions, I was good and after a few, I loved the ribbons and I can do > without menus. > > People state the ribbons are confusing and cannot find what they are > looking for, I'm the opposite. When I use something with menus, I'm like, > ribbons! Where are the ribbons! > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 8:19 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010? > > I'm on your side there - bummer. > > "Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry > Ford. > > Carolyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Lee" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 11:19 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010? > > >> the ribbon menus is suppose to add more security however they are suppose >> to accomplish that. I dislike the ribbon interface as well. >> I think microsoft is seeing how complex they can get. >> the ribbon interface is basically for power users. not all of us are >> power users. >> I'm probably wrong with my assumption but it is what I think >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Carolyn Arnold >> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 7:41 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Speaking of Office 2010? >> >> Where in the world did Office 2010 and other newer programs come up with >> this ribbon idea? It makes no sense to me. I just got some directions, >> keep >> them handy and follow them. I guess it makes sense to somebody. >> >> "Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry >> Ford. >> >> Carolyn >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lenny McHugh" <[email protected]> >> To: "JFW List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:40 PM >> Subject: [JAWS-Users] another marathon session with Microsoft >> >> >>> This was quite interesting. For two days there was a critical security >>> update for MS office 2010 that would fail every time. Finally I called >>> the >>> accessibility support team. After two attempts they started running some >>> diagnostic and clean up tools. One of the first questions asked was if I >>> ever ran any registry cleaners. When I told him no he was glad to hear >>> that. >>> Then he tried it again and it failed. He then wanted to uninstall office >>> 2010 and had quite a few problems. He ran some fix it tools and finally >>> was >>> able to uninstall it. We reinstalled and it took a long time to apply 39 >>> critical updates. Every thing there is now working fine. As soon as it >>> was >>> completed I created a restore point and started a system backup. We were >>> on >>> the phone for almost 2 hours. >>> >>> >>> --- >>> >>> Please visit my web page >>> >>> It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor >>> >>> There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind >>> >>> http://www.LennyMcHugh.com >>> >>> International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990R >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
