Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update

Sun, 06 Dec 2015 05:46:46 -0800

Here's a thought. We have until 2020 to use a fully supported Win7 which works with few problems. I prefer to use the computer as a productivity tool and will leave upgrade headaches to others. When I find that Win10 has enhancements which will materially help me in my work, then I'll consider upgrading. Meanwhile the status quo serves me fine. My job gives me challenges enough. 

On 12/6/2015 11:15 AM, K. Washington wrote:

You are so right with this point.
Even things like CD/DVD burners and Blu-ray players stop working due to driver issues with Windows 10. In addition the incompatibility issues JAWS has with the new Microsoft Edge browser makes this a no-brainer for me at least. 

I'm still using Windows 7 and will continue to do so as long as possible.

I believe in the saying "If it ain't broke don't fix it."

At 06:33 AM 12/6/2015, you wrote:
And suppose list members take your advice and rush to upgrade to Windows 10 only to discover that their printers and scanners no longer work because Windows 10 drivers are not available for them. What then? 

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: David Moore
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 2:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update 

Hi,
When I upgraded to win10, I did not lose one file, non of my settings were 
changed, and everything worked on my computer just like it did before I
upgraded. All I got were many many benefits. Please do not listen to all of the negative stuff going around out there. Jim Flusche helped a lot of us learn how to use win10 after many of us installed it. Non of us have had any 
trouble and the up date went exactly like it was supposed to. Go win10,
upgrade, and enjoy a great reward.


-----Original Message----- From: Singing Sparrow
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 2:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update

So all my files, and programs will not be deleted or ereased?

On 12/6/2015 12:26 AM, Dialup@56k wrote:
Yes, the 'strong' rumour is that the update to Win 10 will happen automatically, IF you have Windows updates set to auto. No, the update is painless. In fact, I upgraded a very sick Win 7 PC last week which had multiple software driver issues. 
It is not running smoothly on Win 10.
'Caveat Emptor', roughly translates from the Latin as 'Let the buyer Beware'. 
Glen

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On Sun-06-Dec-15 3:13 pm, Singing Sparrow wrote:

Let me get this straight, Microsoft is going to automattically update
people to windows 10 who have windows 7, 8, or 8.1 even if they have not 
reserved a copy of windows 10 is this correct?
If so are your files deleted when  this update/upgrade is complete or
are all your files/programs still on the computer intact?

On 12/4/2015 8:28 PM, Hans Pauli Sundstein (Jawslist) wrote:

Hi.
You have to goto the Windows Update, Installed updates, and remove the 
kb2952664, kb3035583, and kb3112343.
Don't restart the computer between each removal, but remove all 3
updates before restart.
When the computer is Restarted, goto the Windows Update, and search
for updates, but don't install the updates, but goto the Recommended
updates link, and see, that the just removed updates again is ready
for install.
Uncheck the checkbox by each of these updates, and use the contextmenu 
button to get acces to the "Hide update".
When these 3 updates are unchecked and hided, Win10 should no longer
be able to install automatically.

I Can't garanty, that Microsoft not later comes with a new update,
that will try to get all Windows Users to upgrade to Win10, but let's
see.

Merry Christmas to all!
Hans Pauli

-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- From: Mario
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 2:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware
of windows update
Anna, I'm no expert, but your question made me rethink my response I was 
going to offer. kb3035583 does not provide any security patch to a
vulnerability, it is merely an update that reminds and facilitates users 
of 7 or 8.1 to reserve the free offer of upgrading to 10. so, I think
not having kb3035583 won't necessarily prevent the computer from being upgraded to windows 10. as for the upgrade being done automatically, I'm 
not sure. but heed Gerald's post about changing the settings from
automatic to manual, and uncheck to get recommended updates. after
7/29/16, all worries of automatically being upgraded to windows 10
should be over, and if you're still on 7 or 8.1, it should be safe to
return windows updates to automatic.



On 12/4/2015 1:26 PM, anna vimini wrote:

sorry Gerald I meant Mario,
Yes I remember you saying to uninstall KB 3,35,583 and I did but I left 
automatic updates on.
so my question is now with that update missing will windows 10 still be 
able to install without me knowing or my permission ?
Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows 
update
Anna, In the past, I've suggested to uninstall KB3035583, and then hide 
it upon checking for updates, but I think what Gerald is implying is
that if you
leave the settings on windows updates to be performed automatically, you 
won't have any control as to what gets updated.

On 12/4/2015 12:17 PM, Jim Pursley wrote:
block quote
Updates are divided (in Win7 at least) between important and
recommended. I never download recommended because I chinstruct Windows to check for updates and let me decide whether to download and install. 
If the Win 10 install is an important upgrade, then you'd have to go
into the details of each upgrade that is connected to the operating
system, not to your other apps like Word, Defender, etc. There is a
link to more information. The process can be enlightening if you care 
for that kind of detail.
This said, the Win 10 income in the systems tray came as an important 
update..I did not scrutinize the important updates.  And so I warily
proceed.

On 12/4/2015 2:38 PM, anna vimini wrote:
block quote
Gerald if I do that I am clue less of which windows updates I should
or shouldm't download.
this is why I was asking which windows update causes the dialogue to
that was mentioned below to appear?
Re: [JAWS-Users] if your not ready for windows 10 beware of windows
update
To prevent Windows 10 from being installed surreptitiously on your PC 
without your knowledge, go to Change Settings in the Windows Update
dialog, and in
the combo box choose the option labeled "check for updates but let me 
choose whether to download and install them."  Also, uncheck the box
labeled "get
recommended updates the same way I receive important updates."

Gerald

-----Original Message----- From: anna vimini
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 10:21 AM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: [JAWS-Users] if your not ready for windows 10 beware of
windows update
yes that is all fine but if you are running jaws 15 and windows 10 some how down loads without your knowledge you are litterally going to be in 
a mess.
could some one on the list please help me and tell me which update will 
cause this dialogue to appear ? that is mentioned below so I can
uninstall it?
before I run into the same problem.
thanks in advance
Re: [JAWS-Users] If you're not ready for Win10, beware of Windows Update 
Hi there,
There is no better time to up grade to win10 than now. It is 


twice as
fast, JAWS and NVDA work with it great, and it is much easier to
navigate. You also
have cortana which obeys your commands to do things on the computer for you and to answer many questions. I and many many JAWS and NVDA users 
have already
upgraded to win10 and love it and will never look back. Please quit
being afraid to explore the unknown. It just might be 10 times more
rewarding when
you finally get the nerve to explore and find your reward. Have a good 
one.

-----Original Message----- From: Bobb Wiley
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 10:02 AM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] If you're not ready for Win10,beware of
Windows Update

Thanks for the heads up on this.

I, for one, am not going to try to adapt to another operating system
just
now, not if I can help it.

Bob

-----Original Message----- From: Don & Cher
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 8:15 AM
To:
[email protected]
Subject: [JAWS-Users] If you're not ready for Win10, beware of Windows 
Update
A windows update which came down yesterday afternoon, installed Win10 without my permission. The automatic update brought up a screen about downloading Win10. MS had downloaded Win10 months ago, but this screen 
made
me question what I knew. There were 2 options- "download and upgrade" 
and
"download but do not upgrade". I selected the last option- thinking that either I had been mistaken about Win10 already being fully downloaded or 
that the major updates to Win10 required a new download of Win10.
However, after the download, I started seeing a 'preparing to install' message and this morning was presented with a license accept screen. I called the accessibility desk to uninstall and hide this update. I don't 
plan on installing till early spring when I will have more time. I
hope no
one else will get caught unprepared as I did last night

Cher

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