I personally believe that upgrading to Windows10 needs to be an individual decision. No one should be criticized for choosing to upgrade or not to upgrade. I am annoyed that Microsoft has taken this approach to force it on us, but that is not my reason for not upgrading. My primary reason is that my employer will not be upgrading to Windows10 anytime soon. As I grow older and wiser, I've decided that it is not worth my time and effort to be running different computer setups at work and home. There was a time in my life when I was simultaneously proficient in using Apple IIe, Apple GS, Apple Mac, and Windows 3.5, as well as able to write computer code in 4 different programming languages. I now leave the multi-platform use to others of you on this list. I monitor the information shared on this list and tuck it away (or search the archives) when I do need the knowledge. In addition, I'm pretty sure that when I do make the decision to upgrade at home, I will be faced with looking for a new printer and scanner. As best as I can tell neither will be supported in Windows10, but since I've been using them since WindowsXP I am well due for replacements of these devices.
So my holiday which for this list is to continue to see useful information being shared on this list and no more criticism of people's personal decisions. We get enough stuff pushed on us from technology manufacturers. Happy Holidays to All!! Annette -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jim Pursley Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 8:45 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of windows update Here's a thought. We have until 2020 to use a fully supported Win7 which works with few problems. I prefer to use the computer as a productivity tool and will leave upgrade headaches to others. When I find that Win10 has enhancements which will materially help me in my work, then I'll consider upgrading. Meanwhile the status quo serves me fine. My job gives me challenges enough. On 12/6/2015 11:15 AM, K. Washington wrote: > You are so right with this point. > > Even things like CD/DVD burners and Blu-ray players stop working due > to driver issues with Windows 10. In addition the incompatibility > issues JAWS has with the new Microsoft Edge browser makes this a > no-brainer for me at least. > > I'm still using Windows 7 and will continue to do so as long as possible. > > I believe in the saying "If it ain't broke don't fix it." > > At 06:33 AM 12/6/2015, you wrote: > >> And suppose list members take your advice and rush to upgrade to >> Windows 10 only to discover that their printers and scanners no >> longer work because Windows 10 drivers are not available for them. >> What then? >> >> Gerald >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: David Moore >> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 2:16 AM >> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware >> of windows update >> >> Hi, >> When I upgraded to win10, I did not lose one file, non of my settings >> were changed, and everything worked on my computer just like it did >> before I upgraded. All I got were many many benefits. Please do not >> listen to all of the negative stuff going around out there. Jim >> Flusche helped a lot of us learn how to use win10 after many of us >> installed it. Non of us have had any trouble and the up date went >> exactly like it was supposed to. Go win10, upgrade, and enjoy a great >> reward. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Singing Sparrow >> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 2:08 AM >> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware >> of windows update >> >> So all my files, and programs will not be deleted or ereased? >> >> On 12/6/2015 12:26 AM, Dialup@56k wrote: >>> Yes, the 'strong' rumour is that the update to Win 10 will happen >>> automatically, IF you have Windows updates set to auto. >>> No, the update is painless. In fact, I upgraded a very sick Win 7 >>> PC last week which had multiple software driver issues. >>> It is not running smoothly on Win 10. >>> 'Caveat Emptor', roughly translates from the Latin as 'Let the buyer >>> Beware'. >>> Glen >>> >>> *** >>> >>> On Sun-06-Dec-15 3:13 pm, Singing Sparrow wrote: >>>> Let me get this straight, Microsoft is going to automattically >>>> update people to windows 10 who have windows 7, 8, or 8.1 even if >>>> they have not reserved a copy of windows 10 is this correct? >>>> If so are your files deleted when this update/upgrade is complete >>>> or are all your files/programs still on the computer intact? >>>> >>>> On 12/4/2015 8:28 PM, Hans Pauli Sundstein (Jawslist) wrote: >>>>> Hi. >>>>> >>>>> You have to goto the Windows Update, Installed updates, and remove >>>>> the kb2952664, kb3035583, and kb3112343. >>>>> Don't restart the computer between each removal, but remove all 3 >>>>> updates before restart. >>>>> When the computer is Restarted, goto the Windows Update, and >>>>> search for updates, but don't install the updates, but goto the >>>>> Recommended updates link, and see, that the just removed updates >>>>> again is ready for install. >>>>> Uncheck the checkbox by each of these updates, and use the >>>>> contextmenu button to get acces to the "Hide update". >>>>> When these 3 updates are unchecked and hided, Win10 should no >>>>> longer be able to install automatically. >>>>> >>>>> I Can't garanty, that Microsoft not later comes with a new update, >>>>> that will try to get all Windows Users to upgrade to Win10, but >>>>> let's see. >>>>> >>>>> Merry Christmas to all! >>>>> Hans Pauli >>>>> >>>>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- From: Mario >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 2:24 AM >>>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 >>>>> beware of windows update >>>>> >>>>> Anna, I'm no expert, but your question made me rethink my response >>>>> I was going to offer. kb3035583 does not provide any security >>>>> patch to a vulnerability, it is merely an update that reminds and >>>>> facilitates users of 7 or 8.1 to reserve the free offer of >>>>> upgrading to 10. so, I think not having kb3035583 won't >>>>> necessarily prevent the computer from being upgraded to windows >>>>> 10. as for the upgrade being done automatically, I'm not sure. but >>>>> heed Gerald's post about changing the settings from automatic to >>>>> manual, and uncheck to get recommended updates. after 7/29/16, all >>>>> worries of automatically being upgraded to windows 10 should be >>>>> over, and if you're still on 7 or 8.1, it should be safe to return >>>>> windows updates to automatic. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/4/2015 1:26 PM, anna vimini wrote: >>>>>> sorry Gerald I meant Mario, >>>>>> Yes I remember you saying to uninstall KB 3,35,583 and I did but >>>>>> I left automatic updates on. >>>>>> so my question is now with that update missing will windows 10 >>>>>> still be able to install without me knowing or my permission ? >>>>>> Re: [JAWS-Users] if you are not ready for windows 10 beware of >>>>>> windows update Anna, In the past, I've suggested to uninstall >>>>>> KB3035583, and then hide it upon checking for updates, but I >>>>>> think what Gerald is implying is that if you leave the settings >>>>>> on windows updates to be performed automatically, you won't have >>>>>> any control as to what gets updated. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/4/2015 12:17 PM, Jim Pursley wrote: >>>>>> block quote >>>>>> Updates are divided (in Win7 at least) between important and >>>>>> recommended. I never download recommended because I chinstruct >>>>>> Windows to check for updates and let me decide whether to >>>>>> download and install. >>>>>> If the Win 10 install is an important upgrade, then you'd have to >>>>>> go into the details of each upgrade that is connected to the >>>>>> operating system, not to your other apps like Word, Defender, >>>>>> etc. There is a link to more information. The process can be >>>>>> enlightening if you care for that kind of detail. >>>>>> >>>>>> This said, the Win 10 income in the systems tray came as an >>>>>> important update..I did not scrutinize the important updates. >>>>>> And so I warily proceed. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/4/2015 2:38 PM, anna vimini wrote: >>>>>> block quote >>>>>> Gerald if I do that I am clue less of which windows updates I >>>>>> should or shouldm't download. >>>>>> this is why I was asking which windows update causes the dialogue >>>>>> to that was mentioned below to appear? >>>>>> Re: [JAWS-Users] if your not ready for windows 10 beware of >>>>>> windows update >>>>>> >>>>>> To prevent Windows 10 from being installed surreptitiously on >>>>>> your PC without your knowledge, go to Change Settings in the >>>>>> Windows Update dialog, and in the combo box choose the option >>>>>> labeled "check for updates but let me choose whether to download >>>>>> and install them." Also, uncheck the box labeled "get >>>>>> recommended updates the same way I receive important updates." >>>>>> >>>>>> Gerald >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: anna vimini >>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 10:21 AM >>>>>> To: >>>>>> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>>>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] if your not ready for windows 10 beware of >>>>>> windows update >>>>>> >>>>>> yes that is all fine but if you are running jaws 15 and windows >>>>>> 10 some >>>>>> how down loads without your knowledge you are litterally going to >>>>>> be in a mess. >>>>>> could some one on the list please help me and tell me which >>>>>> update will cause this dialogue to appear ? that is mentioned >>>>>> below so I can uninstall it? >>>>>> before I run into the same problem. >>>>>> thanks in advance >>>>>> Re: [JAWS-Users] If you're not ready for Win10, beware of Windows >>>>>> Update Hi there, There is no better time to up grade to win10 >>>>>> than now. It is >>>>>> twice as >>>>>> fast, JAWS and NVDA work with it great, and it is much easier to >>>>>> navigate. You also have cortana which obeys your commands to do >>>>>> things on the computer for you and to answer many questions. I >>>>>> and many many JAWS and NVDA users have already upgraded to win10 >>>>>> and love it and will never look back. Please quit being afraid to >>>>>> explore the unknown. It just might be 10 times more rewarding >>>>>> when you finally get the nerve to explore and find your reward. >>>>>> Have a good one. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Bobb Wiley >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 10:02 AM >>>>>> To: >>>>>> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] If you're not ready for Win10,beware of >>>>>> Windows Update >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the heads up on this. >>>>>> >>>>>> I, for one, am not going to try to adapt to another operating >>>>>> system just now, not if I can help it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Don & Cher >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 8:15 AM >>>>>> To: >>>>>> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>>>>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] If you're not ready for Win10, beware of >>>>>> Windows Update >>>>>> >>>>>> A windows update which came down yesterday afternoon, installed >>>>>> Win10 >>>>>> without my permission. The automatic update brought up a screen >>>>>> about downloading Win10. MS had downloaded Win10 months ago, but >>>>>> this screen made me question what I knew. There were 2 options- >>>>>> "download and upgrade" >>>>>> and >>>>>> "download but do not upgrade". I selected the last option- >>>>>> thinking that either I had been mistaken about Win10 already >>>>>> being fully downloaded or that the major updates to Win10 >>>>>> required a new download of Win10. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, after the download, I started seeing a 'preparing to >>>>>> install' >>>>>> message and this morning was presented with a license accept >>>>>> screen. I called the accessibility desk to uninstall and hide >>>>>> this update. >>>>>> I don't >>>>>> plan on installing till early spring when I will have more time. >>>>>> I hope no one else will get caught unprepared as I did last night >>>>>> >>>>>> Cher >>>>>> >>>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>>>> >>>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>>> >>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>> >>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >>> >> >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
