Dear group,

Because T24 and Jbase have strong relationship, I think in many case we can
not know exactly what is Jbase, what is T24, so I agree with Jim: "I think
that that is the end of the group; I always resisted this move."



On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 4:49 AM, Tony Gravagno <[email protected]>wrote:

> **
> I completely agree with the decision and have been looking for this for a
> long time now - since most of the mail I get here is for T24 which needs to
> be filter out.
>
> This is the ONLY group in the Pick/MultiValue community which combines
> application-related posts with DBMS.  I've never understood the insistence
> to burden one group with the concerns of the other.  The negative
> connotation of "splintering" can easily be replaced with a more positive
> vision for allowing each group to focus on concerns of greater interest.
>
> jBase is a great platform, but like most MV platforms the developer base
> doesn't use it to its full potential.  Personally I'd rather see this forum
> sparked with more questions about Web Services, telephony, scanners, mobile
> access, GUI, integration with other products, and usage in new and creative
> applications.  I'd like to see more jBase sales to individuals and
> companies who have never seen it before, and see more queries from people
> who want to use this in a more mainstream context, outside of the
> mundane/traditional usage that stiffles the discussions here.
>
> I'd like to see requests from jBase users for tools and consultation to
> solve new and old problems.  I'd like to see "hey has anyone done this?"
> kind of notes.  I'd like to see tech tips on neat ways to use jBase, things
> that Jim and Rick and devsup people know about but the rest of us don't.
> I'd like to see all that, in addition to, but not instead of responses to
> site-specific problems that many here may never see.
>
> If this forum does not get used better, that's just the way it is.  This
> community is a lot like other MV communities and that's just where we stand
> in life.  For reference, most of the other DBMS-specific forums in our
> market are quite dead.  But jBase is a different kind of platform and I'd
> hope that this community would have a slightly different, more
> forward-thinking perspective.  If not, c'est la vie.
>
> While T24 has dominated 95% of this forum in the past, I believe
> eliminating application-specific queries can clear the way for a wide
> variety of new discussions.  T24 users won't suffer by moving to another
> forum, and this group stands to benefit from a drop in distracting traffic.
> Note that T24 users can also learn from jBase tips as well as share their
> experience.  T24 people aren't getting pushed away, they're just being asked
> to use a different forum for different purposes.  Again, that's not
> unreasonable as that's what everyone else does.
>
> Tony Gravagno
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>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Jim Idle
>
> No – it is a transmogrification, and goes where it goes. Sending one group
> of jBASE users off on its own merely splinters it unnecessarily in my
> opinion. But, so be it.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Rick Weiser
>
> I understand your concern, but isn't it the end of the group anyway if 95%
> of the posts are for T24?
>
>
>
>  *From:* Jim Idle
>
> I think that that is the end of the group; I always resisted this move.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Rick Weiser
>
> This group was originally created to provide jBASE users with an outlet to
> discuss issues, successes and ideas.  Over the past few years, the focus of
> this group has turned more toward Globus/T24.  As the original creator of
> this group, I have discussed this with the other managers of the group and
> we have come to an executive decision.
>
> As of December 31st, 2011, we will stop accepting Globus/T24 posts on this
> forum.  We suggest that one of the more high profile T24 users create a
> forum specifically for Globus/T24 where your users can go to get the help
> they need for this environment.  Of course, any true jBASE questions from
> T24 users are still welcome.
>
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