Mark,

Don't Aussies always read bottom up?

Jim

On Aug 24, 2011, at 14:55, "Mark Hogden" <[email protected]> wrote:

> If I had bothered to read this all the way to the bottom I would have wasted
> more time than I spent all last year filtering T24 crap(jimi will no doubt
> attribute this to my antipodean education and not the length of the post),
> and if I added in the time spent lurking in CDP well...
> 
> As the poster implied, it's folks who don't know a correlative from a
> coconut that probably stand to benefit most from this kind of hybrid group,
> and they probably represent the majority of jBase seats, so WTF. And who
> knows, maybe if we were nice to them they might consider another jBase
> solution at some point in their bright futures.
> 
> Now if only someone would start a top posting vs bottom posting, newsreader
> shootout thread, and then cross post it, I could avoid work altogether.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Tony Gravagno
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:05 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: RE: Getting back to a true jBASE forum
> 
> From: Nguyen Trong Dai
>> Because T24 and Jbase have strong relationship, I think in many case 
>> we can not know exactly what is Jbase, what is T24...
> 
> If a person can't tell the difference between the database and their
> business application then they probably aren't the right person to be
> posting to a forum on behalf of their employer.
> 
> The question to ask yourself is "would my question apply to anyone with this
> DBMS, or does it only apply to banks with this specific software?".  The
> question "During the replication of the two servers which mode is best
> supported by jbase? " is a DBMS question, not to be prefaced with "T24".  A
> question like "is there a menu option to turn on replication" is a T24
> question.  A borderline case might be "my custom BASIC code failed to update
> a file in a subroutine call, and I don't know if the application restricted
> the update or if the DBMS did".
> 
> When in doubt, post to the T24 forum and you will either get a response
> there, or someone will suggest you post to the DBMS forum.  That's not too
> tough is it?  This happens every day in other forums.
> 
> The alternative is that the entire jBase membership gets an enquiry that has
> nothing to do with jBase - I think this actually hurts the jBase community,
> giving people the impression that jBase is now nothing more than a subset of
> T24.  This forum has
> 1927 subscriptions of which "some percentage" does not use T24, and this has
> been going on for 6 years.  Non-T24 people don't burden the group with their
> application-related questions like "how do I run period end close", they
> take those questions elsewhere.  Bank IT people should be as considerate.
> 
> Is that unreasonable or too difficult?
> 
> 
>> , so I agree with Jim: "I think that that is the end of the group; I 
>> always resisted this move."
> 
> Like I said, if that's the end of the jBase group, then it is what it is.
> It's up to jBase people to keep their group alive for their own reasons.  If
> T24 is the only thing keeping this group alive then it was dead a long time
> ago and people need to start thinking about how to address that problem on
> its own.
> 
> Tony Gravagno
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