If I had bothered to read this all the way to the bottom I would have wasted
more time than I spent all last year filtering T24 crap(jimi will no doubt
attribute this to my antipodean education and not the length of the post),
and if I added in the time spent lurking in CDP well...

As the poster implied, it's folks who don't know a correlative from a
coconut that probably stand to benefit most from this kind of hybrid group,
and they probably represent the majority of jBase seats, so WTF. And who
knows, maybe if we were nice to them they might consider another jBase
solution at some point in their bright futures.

Now if only someone would start a top posting vs bottom posting, newsreader
shootout thread, and then cross post it, I could avoid work altogether.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Tony Gravagno
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: RE: Getting back to a true jBASE forum

From: Nguyen Trong Dai
> Because T24 and Jbase have strong relationship, I think in many case 
> we can not know exactly what is Jbase, what is T24...

If a person can't tell the difference between the database and their
business application then they probably aren't the right person to be
posting to a forum on behalf of their employer.

The question to ask yourself is "would my question apply to anyone with this
DBMS, or does it only apply to banks with this specific software?".  The
question "During the replication of the two servers which mode is best
supported by jbase? " is a DBMS question, not to be prefaced with "T24".  A
question like "is there a menu option to turn on replication" is a T24
question.  A borderline case might be "my custom BASIC code failed to update
a file in a subroutine call, and I don't know if the application restricted
the update or if the DBMS did".

When in doubt, post to the T24 forum and you will either get a response
there, or someone will suggest you post to the DBMS forum.  That's not too
tough is it?  This happens every day in other forums.

The alternative is that the entire jBase membership gets an enquiry that has
nothing to do with jBase - I think this actually hurts the jBase community,
giving people the impression that jBase is now nothing more than a subset of
T24.  This forum has
1927 subscriptions of which "some percentage" does not use T24, and this has
been going on for 6 years.  Non-T24 people don't burden the group with their
application-related questions like "how do I run period end close", they
take those questions elsewhere.  Bank IT people should be as considerate.

Is that unreasonable or too difficult?


> , so I agree with Jim: "I think that that is the end of the group; I 
> always resisted this move."

Like I said, if that's the end of the jBase group, then it is what it is.
It's up to jBase people to keep their group alive for their own reasons.  If
T24 is the only thing keeping this group alive then it was dead a long time
ago and people need to start thinking about how to address that problem on
its own.

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