I don't think you ever answered the question... just dodged it.

What about this other broker's service for order execution is worth
abandoning a time tested software package integration with a community of
people keeping it functioning?

Clearly the data service may be better but that really is almost entirely a
seperate issue.
On Oct 23, 2013 9:55 PM, "Daniel Perez" <[email protected]> wrote:

> There are several reasons.  I have an IB account, and to be frank I really
> don't like TWS.  But that alone is certainly not enough.  I also run a
> small trading business, and I have to be flexible on where I trade.
>  Lastly, I don't like the IB data feed, and although you don't have to
> trade from the same source as the feed, it gets you part way there already.
>  The API I may integrate is not FIX, it is tailored for integration into
> this type of platform, so much of the heavy lifting is done on that end.
>  And I know some of the people behind the API are motivated to help me, as
> it helps their business, win-win.
>
> In the end it kind of begs the question, why are all of us here using
> JBookTrader?  It is because we have the flexibility and control to make our
> own decisions with fewer constraints.  It is the same idea. Eugene nicely
> offered up his philosophy on creating JBookTrader, and I thought about
> creating my own platform from scratch too, but if I only have to create an
> adapter that is not a bad deal.
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:37:12 PM UTC-4, Judson Wilson wrote:
>>
>> Furthermore, for order placement, why would you want to use anything
>> other than IB (except for the fact that you might already have someone
>> else)?
>>
>> I know this is a can of worms question, but I'm curious if there is a
>> better broker for this from the perspective of API quality, execution
>> speed, and price.
>>
>> We aren't interested in a cheaper alternative if it requires taking a
>> step backward in API quality or execution speed. Furthermore, I don't think
>> anyone here places enough orders to even care about commissions below IB's
>> prices.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Eugene Kononov <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  When I saw JBT was open source, I thought I would download and build it
>>>> and then make any necessary changes I needed. However, now that I have
>>>> downloaded and built JBT I see that there are many libraries where the
>>>> source is actually not included.  Therefore, my intentions may not work
>>>> out, as far as I can tell.  Did I get that right?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The entire source base of JBookTrader is open. All of the included
>>> libraries (such as JFreeChart, commons, IB API) are also open source, which
>>> can be found elsewhere. There is no sense to bundle the source code of
>>> these libraries with JBookTrader, since they don't need to be modified for
>>> the purposes of building a trading strategy.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Here is what my goal is:  modify the source code to add a new market
>>>> data adapter for real-time market data source other than IB,
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is certainly doable.
>>>
>>>
>>>> and modify the source code to submit orders to another brokerage via my
>>>> new adapter.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This would be much more difficult. There is a ton of things you would
>>> need to worry about when switching over to another brokerage: order
>>> handling and tracking, order executions during disconnections, order
>>> sequencing, rejected orders, partially executed orders, ticker matching,
>>> etc. These things are well tested with JBookTrader and IB, but it took a
>>> good effort to put everything in place and do it right.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I would hope that the project participants of JBT would encourage new
>>>> broker and data feed adapters to expand the influence of the project.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The thing is, as the project owner, I am not really after the
>>> "expansion".  Think of JBT as my private trading system which I offer as an
>>> open source to community. What I get in return is a collection of good code
>>> contributors, free QA by dozens of people, and new ideas.
>>>
>>>
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