Ack... didn't see your additional followups after the first, but my
question still stands in the case you still want to execute orders with a
different broker.
On Oct 24, 2013 3:47 AM, "Judson Wilson" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't think you ever answered the question... just dodged it.
>
> What about this other broker's service for order execution is worth
> abandoning a time tested software package integration with a community of
> people keeping it functioning?
>
> Clearly the data service may be better but that really is almost entirely
> a seperate issue.
> On Oct 23, 2013 9:55 PM, "Daniel Perez" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> There are several reasons.  I have an IB account, and to be frank I
>> really don't like TWS.  But that alone is certainly not enough.  I also run
>> a small trading business, and I have to be flexible on where I trade.
>>  Lastly, I don't like the IB data feed, and although you don't have to
>> trade from the same source as the feed, it gets you part way there already.
>>  The API I may integrate is not FIX, it is tailored for integration into
>> this type of platform, so much of the heavy lifting is done on that end.
>>  And I know some of the people behind the API are motivated to help me, as
>> it helps their business, win-win.
>>
>> In the end it kind of begs the question, why are all of us here using
>> JBookTrader?  It is because we have the flexibility and control to make our
>> own decisions with fewer constraints.  It is the same idea. Eugene nicely
>> offered up his philosophy on creating JBookTrader, and I thought about
>> creating my own platform from scratch too, but if I only have to create an
>> adapter that is not a bad deal.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:37:12 PM UTC-4, Judson Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>> Furthermore, for order placement, why would you want to use anything
>>> other than IB (except for the fact that you might already have someone
>>> else)?
>>>
>>> I know this is a can of worms question, but I'm curious if there is a
>>> better broker for this from the perspective of API quality, execution
>>> speed, and price.
>>>
>>> We aren't interested in a cheaper alternative if it requires taking a
>>> step backward in API quality or execution speed. Furthermore, I don't think
>>> anyone here places enough orders to even care about commissions below IB's
>>> prices.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Eugene Kononov <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  When I saw JBT was open source, I thought I would download and build
>>>>> it and then make any necessary changes I needed. However, now that I have
>>>>> downloaded and built JBT I see that there are many libraries where the
>>>>> source is actually not included.  Therefore, my intentions may not work
>>>>> out, as far as I can tell.  Did I get that right?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The entire source base of JBookTrader is open. All of the included
>>>> libraries (such as JFreeChart, commons, IB API) are also open source, which
>>>> can be found elsewhere. There is no sense to bundle the source code of
>>>> these libraries with JBookTrader, since they don't need to be modified for
>>>> the purposes of building a trading strategy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Here is what my goal is:  modify the source code to add a new market
>>>>> data adapter for real-time market data source other than IB,
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is certainly doable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> and modify the source code to submit orders to another brokerage via
>>>>> my new adapter.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This would be much more difficult. There is a ton of things you would
>>>> need to worry about when switching over to another brokerage: order
>>>> handling and tracking, order executions during disconnections, order
>>>> sequencing, rejected orders, partially executed orders, ticker matching,
>>>> etc. These things are well tested with JBookTrader and IB, but it took a
>>>> good effort to put everything in place and do it right.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I would hope that the project participants of JBT would encourage new
>>>>> broker and data feed adapters to expand the influence of the project.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> The thing is, as the project owner, I am not really after the
>>>> "expansion".  Think of JBT as my private trading system which I offer as an
>>>> open source to community. What I get in return is a collection of good code
>>>> contributors, free QA by dozens of people, and new ideas.
>>>>
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