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|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rickard �berg
|Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 4:50 AM
|To: jBoss Developer
|Subject: Re: [jBoss-Dev] Re: jboss on tomcat update
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|
|Ole Husgaard wrote:
|> A modified or amended license is problematic, as there is
|> no established and well-known interpretation of it.
|
|Agreed. Standard licenses are much better.
|
|> Before we go to such drastic steps as changing the license,
|> we should find out exactly what is the problem with the
|> license we have now. I've seen many flames and much hearsay,
|> and a lot of crying from both sides, but from facts and
|> valid arguments I have only been able to identify three
|> "problems":
|>
|> 1) jBoss cannot include the Tomcat code and distribute
|>    the combination without breaking the APL license of
|>    Tomcat.
|
|Which voids all bundling efforts like OpenJoda, or Aarons. Not good. EJB
|on its own is quite weak.

again, aggregation is not "containment"... GPL is extremelly clear on that

marc

|
|> 2) Tomcat cannot include the jBoss code and distribute
|>    the combination without breaking the GPL license of
|>    jBoss.
|
|Correct, but this is probably minor.
|
|> 3) Someone (forgot who) refuses to add the jBoss code
|>    to their tree because they have a problem with the
|>    GPL license.
|
|Minor.
|
|> The biggest problem I see here is cutting off the
|> flames, flamebait, crying and hearsay.
|>
|> We should concentrate on the facts:
|> 1) Copyright legislation.
|> 2) APL license.
|> 3) GPL license.
|> 4) Are any of the three above violated, and if
|>    yes: How, and what are the implications?
|> These three things are the _only_ ones that a
|> lawyer would look at if he was preparing a case.
|
|I am personally more concerned with what various uses of jBoss are
|possible. Currently it is not possible to make a J2EE server with jBoss
|and Tomcat, and that worries me.
|
|> We should also (like always) listen to what the
|> jBoss community wants.
|
|Absolutely true.
|
|How many want GPL (for whatever reason) and how many would be ok with
|APL (or similar, again for whatever reason)?
|
|> What the Tomcat community wants is their problem,
|> and all that we should care about is that we must
|> _not_ violate their rights.
|
|True.
|
|/Rickard
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|Rickard �berg
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