All I'm saying is that this is just another configuration file in an already
complicated system.  Energies might be spent in a better direction.  I'll
shut up now...

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott
> M Stark
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 11:56 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Re: [JBoss-user] JBoss in a multi developers
> environment
>
>
> Ok, and you will have that ready by?
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Burke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 8:32 AM
> Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Re: [JBoss-user] JBoss in a multi developers
> environment
>
>
> > Guys,
> >
> > I've been thinking about this.  Wouldn't it be better/easier to create a
> UI
> > configuration tool than do this port mapper stuff?  What I mean
> is a JBoss
> > configuration tool that for each component asks you what port you want
> your
> > JNDI server to run on, Web server, etc... as well as other config
> > information.  This tool could be smart enough to determine if
> something is
> > already running under a certain port and tell you so you have to decide
> the
> > new port to run under.  This stuff would not only be usefull for a
> multiple
> > developer environment, but would be extremely useful in an Installer and
> > management GUI, and IMHO, would be more reep more significant
> benefits for
> > the JBoss project.
> >
> > IMHO, what you're proposing would just create ugliness and
> complication in
> > the code base.  But maybe I'm wrong here.  I don't know.  Do
> whatever you
> > want.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Mike
> > > Finn
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 8:02 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Re: [JBoss-user] JBoss in a multi developers
> > > environment
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Very basic question, but I have to ask it: how should the service
> bindings
> > > "service" be exposed? I assume as MBean? MBean with static
> port manager
> > > bound in JNDI (might have the chicken/egg problem here, since
> > > JNDI would be
> > > a dependency and JNDI would need to find what port on which
> to run...)?
> > >
> > > #mike
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Juha-P Lindfors
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 6:36 AM
> > > To: JBoss-dev
> > > Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Re: [JBoss-user] JBoss in a multi developers
> > > environment
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 20 May 2002, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
> > >
> > > > [I moved this to the dev list]
> > > >
> > > > I think the real power of JMX is you can have disparate components
> that
> > > > can all talk to a central object without becoming tightly coupled.
> > > >
> > > > Here is my idea:
> > > >
> > > > We have an optional port server MBean.  Before a service
> opens a port
> it
> > > > checks for the existence of the port server, and if (and only if) it
> > > > exists, it asks the port server for a port passing the service name
> and
> > > > port name (both are just any string).  If the port service doesn't
> > > > exist, it follows the default code.
> > > >
> > > > This would require that the MBean wrappers for any serveice
> that opens
> a
> > > > port to follow know about the possibility of a port service, but I
> don't
> > > > think that is a big deal. Most MBeans already know about many
> services.
> > >
> > > another possibility would be to persist these attributes
> containing port
> > > numbers to a single location, e.g. config/ports.properties where all
> ports
> > > would be in a single file.
> > >
> > > This would not require the MBean developers to change their coding in
> any
> > > way (Jules point about simple contracts) but would just require us to
> > > config the initial server setup for the MBeans in question to use the
> same
> > > location for these attributes. New user MBeans could also be
> configured
> to
> > > use the same storage. Same approach would work for other system
> resources
> > > as well (whatever they might be) without having to impose yet another
> > > contractual requirement for MBean developers.
> > >
> > > However, this requires that we convert to using persistent
> mbeans, which
> > > is a more long term project. Short term your solution is the
> easier fix.
> > >
> > > my .02
> > >
> > > -- Juha
> > >
> > >
> > >
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