> Also, lots of projects fail... all the time. Now they are just
> failing while trying to use EJB :)
:) since a study recently showed that 60% new project were J2EE (COM at 15%,
the rest PHP and stuff) it is not surprising if some do fail :))) yes, you
are right on statistical grounds alone.
I don't buy it until I see it! All the "indicators" are giving 2 thumbs up
for j2ee, it will become the industry workhorse, yet kirk true (!) claims
there is an undercurrent of failures. I might believe him when he shows it
to me. Be them statistical (like you claim) or not, I think we need to hear
the details.
I will fear hard data, not impressions of "decision makers", these don't
count, I mean it.
marc
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: marc fleury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 1:49 PM
> To: jBoss
> Subject: RE: [jBoss-User] Case studies
>
>
> > Can anyone point me to some good case studies of companies
> > benefitting from
> > EJB/jBoss? Are there any performance matrices available?
> >
> > The "decision makers" in my company aren't too favorable about J2EE/EJB
> > adoption. They have related to me that they are hearing only bad
> > things from
> > other companies. They assert that *everyone* who had started
> > projects using
>
> The "decision makers" at your company are clueless pigs. Techno
> peasants at
> best. Don't bring them in here, we need the pure clear fresh air for
> training...
>
> ok joking apart.
>
> I found the report to be useless. I need "details" of what went wrong (I
> have little use for opinions and impressions they tend to be random
> datapoints). Is it WebLogic specific? is it lack of EJB expertise? is it
> inadequacy of j2ee to the problem? heck, was it j2ee? Your mail (as most
> negative mails) is very vague and just throws Fear Uncertainty and Doubt
> from the side lines but provides no hard data.
>
> But this is the open source my friend... you have dirty laundry?
> put it in
> the light and center stage and we will see if it is really dirty and if it
> is we will do something about it.
>
> I am saying this because everything that is good for WebLogic is
> good for us
> and everything that is bad for WebLogic is bad for us.
>
> marc
>
> PS: sorry for the tone, you are the first one that comes with
> this "you know
> j2ee is dead!" pitch, so let's hear it, let's hear it. Please
> let's hear it.
>
>
> > these technologies are now bailing on them. Noteworthy is that a large
> > percentage of them are apparently using WebLogic. One of the
> > primary reasons
> > that I'm looking into jBoss is because of its cost (or lack
> thereof), but
> > apparently, cost wasn't the primary reason for the failures.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Kirk
> > ____________________________________________
> >
> > Kirk True
> > Software Engineer
> > paper2net.com
> > http://www.paper2net.com
> >
> >
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