Jeremy I'm not sure how much you've looked around, but you may want to look
at Orion if you're looking for something thats more affordable and is more
featured as a commercial product. I cringe at the idea of using a databases
vendors internally developed appserver - I've been fighting this on my end
on a project I'm interested in. Sure its nice to say 'well the database
supports that', but just as with anything else once you go down that dark
road there is usually no coming back from the embedding of LOTS of
proprietary code into your system. I think Oracle makes a good database, but
their tools and support systems are of the devil :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Clymer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 2:51 PM
To: jBoss
Subject: RE: [jBoss-User] Case studies


> Come on! I need "real life" we have so much IT people on the list with
> ongoing projects.  Can we hear your failures and your successes?

In my department, we have been using Oracle 8i's JServer for EJBs with
terrible results.  They force you to use too much proprietary code and its
not easy to develop on.  We chase obscure errors and need to spend time
working around different  oracle problems that come up.  I love their
database, but they are so far off the original intention of the EJB spec.

Thats why I've been looking into JBoss.  A free app server thats written to
the latest spec.  The only problem that I have with JBoss is that it won't
be complete in time for my applications to go live.  Therefore I have
recommended that we go with Weblogic.  It comes with its own problems, such
as high cost, but the fact that it is proven in the industry to provide
scalable solutions to large projects gives the project managers the
confidence they need.

JBoss on the other hand is not yet a complete solution.  I'm sure that when
it is done, it will compete with the best app servers on the market.  But
for my needs, its development won't be complete in time.

Jeremy



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