Hi,
Isn't the database the perfect place for a j2ee container? That was my
impression, just starting to work with it. When the books cover the
latest standard, the software supports the latest minus one, and people
are deploying latest minus two, I understand when people have issues with
j2ee (ejb in particular). If it moves that fast, it needed to, no? That
is why I discount people saying it _the_ thing. That being said, I do
think it's the right direction (i'm not a naysayer ;).
In particular, I've heard much about bmp vs cmp, and that no one is doing
cmp right. I haven't done much with ejb, except try to understand it, but
am interested in peoples perspective (how persistence will work best, and
where the container will end up).
Thanks,
Kenneth Topp
On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Greg Pierce wrote:
> Jeremy I'm not sure how much you've looked around, but you may want to look
> at Orion if you're looking for something thats more affordable and is more
> featured as a commercial product. I cringe at the idea of using a databases
> vendors internally developed appserver - I've been fighting this on my end
> on a project I'm interested in. Sure its nice to say 'well the database
> supports that', but just as with anything else once you go down that dark
> road there is usually no coming back from the embedding of LOTS of
> proprietary code into your system. I think Oracle makes a good database, but
> their tools and support systems are of the devil :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremy Clymer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 2:51 PM
> To: jBoss
> Subject: RE: [jBoss-User] Case studies
>
>
> > Come on! I need "real life" we have so much IT people on the list with
> > ongoing projects. Can we hear your failures and your successes?
>
> In my department, we have been using Oracle 8i's JServer for EJBs with
> terrible results. They force you to use too much proprietary code and its
> not easy to develop on. We chase obscure errors and need to spend time
> working around different oracle problems that come up. I love their
> database, but they are so far off the original intention of the EJB spec.
>
> Thats why I've been looking into JBoss. A free app server thats written to
> the latest spec. The only problem that I have with JBoss is that it won't
> be complete in time for my applications to go live. Therefore I have
> recommended that we go with Weblogic. It comes with its own problems, such
> as high cost, but the fact that it is proven in the industry to provide
> scalable solutions to large projects gives the project managers the
> confidence they need.
>
> JBoss on the other hand is not yet a complete solution. I'm sure that when
> it is done, it will compete with the best app servers on the market. But
> for my needs, its development won't be complete in time.
>
> Jeremy
>
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