You touched some business ussues together with documentation. Why open source product 
is better to learn than some WebLogic?
1. Supposidely, open source community is much more live, more fun to get involved. But 
WebLogic also has user forums and peer supposrt. And that community may be even
larger, so easier to get a response.
2. One can look at the source. But this is not of a great help to juniors like me.
3. The question may be answered by authors-developers. But they have a separate mail 
list and rarely talk to beginner users.
4. The product is free, so I can offer it to my poor boss of a small company. But on 
the other hand rich companies often prerer "weblogics".
5. Open source has a flexible license, so it absorbs best contributions and quicker 
progresses. But is it so flexible? If Oracle wanted to use some pieces of JBoss or its
technologies, would it have the same easy opportunity to just buy this ot use it for 
free keeping their existent license?
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:11:46 -0700
From: Richard Bottoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [JBoss-user] manual
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 07:37 PM 6/15/01 +0200, you wrote:

>
> I agree totally!
> You made an exellent point!


I can volunteer my skills in publishing to handle page layout and
conversion to
Acrobat electronic versions. 'Fluffy' documentation is the key for successful
expansion beyond gearheads to people who RTFM, and then are still mystified.

What would be useful is:

        - complete well laid out docs
        - examples, starting with 'Hello World' to a large project
        - step by step instructions for using JDBC connectivity to MySQL,
Postgress
        - a complete file list w/common setup under Red Hat, Debian etc...

Couple that with instructions of how to get Visual Cafe, JBuilder or other off
the shelf, low cost Java development tools working with JBoss, and many more
developers would roll out projects using J2EE.

Frankly, not everyone can 'read the source' or even manage the command line to
get their job done. Plus, we need to provide examples of how this technology
will help Joe Average save his company money.

Weblogic's price includes the support that will help Joe Average's project
succeed and keep him from getting fired.  If Joe recommends JBoss and he
can' t
make it work, the $10,000 he saved will not help him.

Love or hate Red Hat, I didn't get hooked on Linux until I found a product
that
had an easy one disk install and a manual to tell me how to use it.


r.b.




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