ALL RIGHT THAT IS ENOUGH...
Whatever you guys are looking for, what saddens me is that you want to hop
on the boat with the first "desconocido" who comes along rather than invest
that energy in the JBoss website and book.
You don't understand that we will compete with efforts like this one. WE
ARE ALL FOR COMMERCIAL EXPLOITATION. JBoss Group IS A COMMERCIAL
EXPLOITATION by the developers for the developers, and we hope to grow it
organically.
I AM FOR COMMERCIAL EXPLOITATION BY OURSELVES. WE will compete with
"red-hats" that crop up and they will compete with us through JBoss Group.
JBOSS.ORG WILL SOON BECOME A FULL-FLEDGED PORTAL... he and other similar
types don't want to help us I understand, but what I don't understand is
that you guys (core developers) would rather hand it to someone who just
appeared out of the woodwork RATHER THAN EXPLOIT IT YOURSELVES. WE NEED TO
ORGANIZE THIS NON-SENSE.
SO STOP THE BULLSHIT ABOUT NON-COMMERCIAL BLABLABLA, IT IS NON-SENSE. I
WANT A VIABLE COMMERCIAL PERIPHERAL WORLD AROUND JBOSS. IT WILL HAPPEN, IT
WILL NEED TO BE SERIOUS ADD-ON STUFF AND WRITTING INTERVIEWS ABOUT ME OR
RIPPING OF OUR DOCUMENTATION EFFORT ON ANOTHER WEBSITE USING THE JBOSS NAME
IS JUST NOT GOING TO CUT IT!
I am tired of the idealism in both ways, tired of 3rd party insulting me on
my own fucking lists and telling me " you put your work on LGPL now suck it
up! you fool!" and tired of the "abstract lectures" from the open source
zealots.
I WILL MAKE JBOSS GROUP A SUCCESS FOR THE GROUP.
marcf
|-----Original Message-----
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of danch (Dan
|Christopherson)
|Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:15 PM
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] computerplanet.com
|
|
|Thank you, Ole, for saying what has been on my mind in a fashion far
|more succinct and calm than I could manage.
|
|I, for one, was happy with the idea that Richard had: the web site he
|proposed may have allowed me to never again have to explain why you
|can't use autoincremented key fields with CMP EJBs (among other things).
|
|-danch
|
|Ole Husgaard wrote:
|
|> Hi,
|>
|> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|>
|>>Marc,
|>>
|>>If you don't like the fact that the open source licence (LGPL) for jBoss
|>>allows this, then don't release it as open source.
|>>
|>>If you don't release jBoss as open source then jBoss would not look like
|>>jBoss at all, maybe more like Microsoft Windows ;-)
|>>
|>
|> I Agree.
|>
|> We cannot first give people permission to redistribute,
|> and then get angry about those who use that permission
|> and call them "free loaders".
|>
|> Marc wrote:
|>
|>>>yes so we put up a website and the technology so free loaders
|>>>like you can
|>>>come along and "for the sake of their business" not
|>>>contribute a bit to the
|>>>project and draw the traffic to themselves.
|>>>
|>
|> Personally, I would be p*ssed off by such a statement.
|> All he wants is to write about JBoss (spreading the
|> word is IMHO fine) and redistribute it (we gave him
|> permission for that with the LGPL).
|>
|> However, he did one minor piece of inappropriate
|> free loading: He used this list for advertizing
|> for his web site, without any concrete references
|> to anything JBoss-related.
|> IMO, it is OK to use this list for notifying
|> interested readers that something JBoss-related
|> can be found somewhere. But is is _not_ OK that
|> this list be used for advertizing web sites where
|> something JBoss-related may be found at some point
|> in the future.
|>
|>
|> Best Regards,
|>
|> Ole Husgaard.
|>
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