--On Tuesday, June 26, 2001 2:14 PM -0500 "danch (Dan Christopherson)"
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> I, for one, was happy with the idea that Richard had: the web site he
> proposed may have allowed me to never again have to explain why you can't
> use autoincremented key fields with CMP EJBs (among other things).
LOL! But I really enjoy your many posts about sequence fields! It gives me
a chance to post about the java.rmi.server.UID class!
<OK, here is the part where I become flame bait>
Now that things are calming down a bit on this issue, I'm concerned about a
different but related issue underscored by this. I have noticed that
sometimes, postings on this list can be a little, um, aggressive. Sometimes
people are insulted personally. Sometimes profanity is used. Occasionally,
people are publically ridiculed. I had noticed a distinct trend away from
this during the past several months, but unfortunatly, the past week has
started to track back to it. If one looks through the list, examples are,
unfortunatly, easy to find. More unfortunatly, these examples sometimes
come from people at the top of the jBoss organization and set the tone for
other posters.
When I first started to read this list many months ago, I was very
intimidated by it. I didn't post unless I was desperate or unless I was
certian I knew exactly the answer to someones probem, so as not to expose
myself to the risk of being cut off at the knees. Some may say that this is
a good thing, as it reduces list volume and forces people to use the docs.
In reality, it causes people to be frustrated and to turn elsewhere or to
not post what would have been a helpful response.
jBoss is an *excellant* and complex product and this list provides
fantastic support. Many posters here provide generous and curtious support
(I really like reading Danch and Scott Stark - very educational). I am
personally *very* appreciative for the jBoss product and the support I
receive here and sincerely hope I'll be in a position to contribute (either
time or money) someday. My main point is that it would be a shame if the
quality of the support aspect was reduced because of a tone thats sometimes
too harsh from just a few posters.
Jim
>
> -danch
>
> Ole Husgaard wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> Marc,
>>>
>>> If you don't like the fact that the open source licence (LGPL) for jBoss
>>> allows this, then don't release it as open source.
>>>
>>> If you don't release jBoss as open source then jBoss would not look like
>>> jBoss at all, maybe more like Microsoft Windows ;-)
>>>
>>
>> I Agree.
>>
>> We cannot first give people permission to redistribute,
>> and then get angry about those who use that permission
>> and call them "free loaders".
>>
>> Marc wrote:
>>
>>>> yes so we put up a website and the technology so free loaders
>>>> like you can
>>>> come along and "for the sake of their business" not
>>>> contribute a bit to the
>>>> project and draw the traffic to themselves.
>>>>
>>
>> Personally, I would be p*ssed off by such a statement.
>> All he wants is to write about JBoss (spreading the
>> word is IMHO fine) and redistribute it (we gave him
>> permission for that with the LGPL).
>>
>> However, he did one minor piece of inappropriate
>> free loading: He used this list for advertizing
>> for his web site, without any concrete references
>> to anything JBoss-related.
>> IMO, it is OK to use this list for notifying
>> interested readers that something JBoss-related
>> can be found somewhere. But is is _not_ OK that
>> this list be used for advertizing web sites where
>> something JBoss-related may be found at some point
>> in the future.
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Ole Husgaard.
>>
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