I know this is vaguely offtopic, but, are Sun ok with you using "Java" as
part of the name? I mean, it would suck changing the name to avoid probs w/
J. D. Edwards, only to find out that Sun want you to stop expanding the
acronym altogether.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2001 12:01 PM
> To: Jim LoVerde; Alan Hadsell
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Name change
> 
> 
> I've sounded out one of my lawyer neighbors about this, and 
> have identified 
> several lawyers who might be able to help, although not 
> necessarily within 
> the 15-day time-frame, and not necessarily for free.
> 
> The bottom line is that this is a battle which could probably 
> be won.  The 
> question is, is the battle worth fighting?  I thought so this 
> morning, but 
> am less sure now.
> 
> I like the name EmacsJDE as well.
> 
> - Jonathan
> 
> At 08:08 PM 7/16/01, Jim LoVerde wrote:
> >Except the same argument with regard to J2EE and JDEE can be 
> made about
> >EJB and EJE.  All and all, I think that EmacsJDE would be the best
> >choice (assuming it wouldn't be objected to by JD Edwards).  
> Here's why:
> >
> >1. It would allow searched for JDE to potentially turn up EmacsJDE as
> >well (especially when searching for JDE and JAVA).
> >2. It incorporates the name of a FSF product, which might 
> give it some
> >implicit trademark protection, although I still think 
> trademarking might
> >not be a bad idea.  Does anyone know what if any trademarks they own?
> >3. It makes it clear that it is tightly coupled to emacs, which is
> >potentially a double edged sword with regard to attracting 
> interest, but
> >is true none the less.
> >4. The emacsjde.org, .com, .net, are all currently available (so is
> >jdee.org, but jdee.com is taken right now)
> >
> >The only thing I don't like about it is that it's slightly verbose.
> >However, I would not be surprised if developers still 
> referred to it as
> >JDE within programming circles (hence my questioning of whether JD
> >Edwards would be ok with this).
> >
> >
> >Alan Hadsell wrote:
> >
> > > I vote for EJE (Emacs Java Environment).  Easy to 
> remember, can't be
> > > confused with JDE.  The current claimants for this acronym are:
> > >
> > >    European Journal of Endocrinology
> > >    The Elgin, Joliet and Eastern Railway
> > >    The EJE Group (Environmental Design and Planning,
> > >         Newcastle NSW, Australia) http://www.eje.com.au
> > >    Errington John Enterprises Ltd.
> > >
> > > And I DON'T think that harassing JDEdwards about it is going to do
> > > any good.  They do have the domain name jde.com, and 
> they've had it
> > > since 1998 (although jdedwards.com seems to be their main domain
> > > name).
> > >
> > > Let's just change the name and get on with our lives.  
> Don't we have
> > > better things to do?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Alan Hadsell
> > > "Whatever does not kill me makes me stranger".
> >
> >
> >
> >
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