I'm in favor of moving forward with the Clojure back end.  Clojure tooling 
makes the Emacs side of things much easier as Phil mentioned earlier.

I _do_ think it would be possible really to support both the Java REPL and 
Clojure, however, it wouldn't make sense to duplicate core JDEE IDE type 
functionality like method/class completion, wizards, etc.


On Feb 12, 2016, at 8:28 AM, Phillip Lord <phillip.l...@russet.org.uk> wrote:

> 
> At this point, we haven't concrete decided on which way to go either
> way.
> 
> If there is the willingness to drop the beanshell backend, then we
> probably need to plan for this and decide for sure.
> 
> If we go for the Clojure backend, for example, I wonder whether it is
> possible to support both clojure and beanshell at once, which would
> allow an easy migration path. I suspect not, unfortunately. In which
> case, we either have to maintain a fork for a good time, or effectively
> freeze the current JDEE, then move to the new backend, which probably
> means breaking current features.
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> Przemysław Wojnowski <espera...@cumego.com> writes:
> 
>> According to http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk9/ the release date (as 
>> for now) is March 2017, so at least for a year not many people will use it.
>> 
>> Anyway, this may be a good direction in the future.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Przemysław
>> 
>> W dniu 12.02.2016 o 03:43, Troy Daniels pisze:
>>> There is also the fact that not everyone is using Java 9 yet.
>>> 
>>> Troy
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Phillip Lord
>>> <phillip.l...@russet.org.uk <mailto:phillip.l...@russet.org.uk>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>    <joa...@verona.se <mailto:joa...@verona.se>> writes:
>>> 
>>>> I tried the jdk 9 repl briefly, and it appeared to work as advertized.
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe it could be used in place of bsh, or maybe the Clojure idea is
>>>> better, I'm not sure.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    I haven't tried it yet -- the installation looks to be a bit of a pain.
>>> 
>>>    AFAICT, though, it would be a good replacement for bsh and a step up
>>>    from the current situation, as bsh is not maintained. Having something
>>>    build into the JDK is a big plus.
>>> 
>>>    At the same time, the clojure route has the advantage of a sane
>>>    communication layer with the running process. I know that Emacs has
>>>    communicated through a pipe with processes for a long time, but parsing
>>>    command line output never seems like a fantastic idea to me.
>>> 
>>>    Of course, the two ideas are not necessarily a dichotomy. If we had good
>>>    connectivity with a clojure process via nrepl, then clojure could also
>>>    launch a Java REPL process. Depending on the Java REPL API, this should
>>>    avoid the nastiness of parsing.
>>> 
>>>    Phil
>>> 
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