phillip.l...@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes:

> At this point, we haven't concrete decided on which way to go either
> way.
>
> If there is the willingness to drop the beanshell backend, then we
> probably need to plan for this and decide for sure.
>
> If we go for the Clojure backend, for example, I wonder whether it is
> possible to support both clojure and beanshell at once, which would
> allow an easy migration path. I suspect not, unfortunately. In which
> case, we either have to maintain a fork for a good time, or effectively
> freeze the current JDEE, then move to the new backend, which probably
> means breaking current features.

While I suggested to have a look at the Java REPL, I vastly prefer
Clojure over Java. I do maintain Java code however, so for me the
Clojure path to a better JDE would be more interesting.

I would like to help out, but at this time I'm not sure how.
(also, my Emacs hacking time is limited to the emacs xwidget project at
the moment)

>
> Phil
>
>
> Przemysław Wojnowski <espera...@cumego.com> writes:
>
>> According to http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk9/ the release date (as 
>> for now) is March 2017, so at least for a year not many people will use it.
>>
>> Anyway, this may be a good direction in the future.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Przemysław
>>
>> W dniu 12.02.2016 o 03:43, Troy Daniels pisze:
>>> There is also the fact that not everyone is using Java 9 yet.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Phillip Lord
>>> <phillip.l...@russet.org.uk <mailto:phillip.l...@russet.org.uk>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     <joa...@verona.se <mailto:joa...@verona.se>> writes:
>>>
>>>     > I tried the jdk 9 repl briefly, and it appeared to work as advertized.
>>>     >
>>>     > Maybe it could be used in place of bsh, or maybe the Clojure idea is
>>>     > better, I'm not sure.
>>>
>>>
>>>     I haven't tried it yet -- the installation looks to be a bit of a pain.
>>>
>>>     AFAICT, though, it would be a good replacement for bsh and a step up
>>>     from the current situation, as bsh is not maintained. Having something
>>>     build into the JDK is a big plus.
>>>
>>>     At the same time, the clojure route has the advantage of a sane
>>>     communication layer with the running process. I know that Emacs has
>>>     communicated through a pipe with processes for a long time, but parsing
>>>     command line output never seems like a fantastic idea to me.
>>>
>>>     Of course, the two ideas are not necessarily a dichotomy. If we had good
>>>     connectivity with a clojure process via nrepl, then clojure could also
>>>     launch a Java REPL process. Depending on the Java REPL API, this should
>>>     avoid the nastiness of parsing.
>>>
>>>     Phil
>>>
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