Correct. Is that something with which you could help?
> On May 5, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Lanning <lann...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Has anybody had any luck teaching Emacs about Java syntax?
> Last I looked there wasn't proper support for generics, or
> try-with-resources, or lambdas.
> When I say "proper support" I mean indentation and font-lock at a minimum.
>
>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Paul Landes <lan...@mailc.net> wrote:
>> Thanks Rob for your comments.
>>
>> The main issue is there are not enough developers to get it back up to
>> snuff--only maintain what we have. JDEE is very large and IMO it needs to
>> be reduced to eliminate bloat and then expand through a more flexible plugin
>> framework.
>>
>> It's been my plan for many years to fork it implementing some design changes
>> but this is a lot of work all at one time for one person. It is even more
>> work to keep use a new fork code base and continue developing Java with
>> JDEE, which is what I currently do.
>>
>> Most of the original authors of JDEE don't write Java anymore, but if there
>> is enough interest a new fork and I had others to help out I'd think more
>> seriously about embarking on such a project in the shorter term.
>>
>> Basic technology stack I was thinking:
>>
>> - Maven :all builds, dependencies, project related stuff resides in a pom
>> (regardless of if you choose to use maven as a build tool).
>> - Clojure: I've been using Clojure now for the last year or so and have
>> decided for very practical reasons to use it instead of a CommonLisp based
>> JVM language (i.e. Armed Bear/ABCL)
>> - Leiningen (http://leiningen.org): mostly for the Clojure Java integration
>> side stuff but there might be something useful on the project setup side as
>> well.
>> - Cider: I'm currently using nrepl, but I hear this is the new direction for
>> Clojure/Emacs integration.
>> - Move semantic functionality to some JVM based API. Upside is this gets
>> rid of some limitations and complexity of semantic, but increases complexity
>> on the JVM side.
>> - Investigate some of the Eclipse libraries (not IDE) to see if there could
>> be some reuse. That said, I'm reluctant to do too much with this as a lot
>> of their work involves dumping a JVM and reloading because of the way class
>> loading works.
>> - Move to Github
>>
>> Regarding the Eclipse libraries: Ideally there would be no class loading at
>> all and we could use some library (written in Java or any other language) to
>> do everything Beanshell currently does. The code generation would be
>> straight forward, but the reflection would be hard since it currently uses
>> ASM to compile and then class load what you've written. However, Eclipse is
>> able to grok your code and do things like method completion before it
>> successfully compiles it. I have to believe they have some library (or use a
>> third party library) to do this and it doesn't involve class loading.
>>
>> I started to investigate dynamic class reloading in Clojure and I've found
>> the facility does indeed exist, but is less accessible. I started to look
>> at a library on git that makes class loading straight forward, but it
>> appears this library is no longer compat with newer versions of Clojure.
>>
>> If there are any volunteers, i.e. someone more familiar with the Eclipse
>> code base, maybe someone can look into what libraries would work.
>>
>> In the past, discussion like this has lead to more discussion but no action.
>> Maybe something will change.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On May 1, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Rob Sargent <robjsarg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Javier,
>>> You have hit the usual bumps. Some, with persistence you will smooth out.
>>> Others, no so much. There may or may not be current effort on JDEE,
>>> I cannot really tell.
>>>
>>> I can however assure you that your 'long term commitment to emacs' will
>>> reward you many fold. Don't be afraid to use to the ides (Eclipse,
>>> NetBeans are free and powerful alternatives to IntelliJ). They do their
>>> one job well. They all suck as editors. Turn on auto-revert-mode for your
>>> java files and any edit's you do make in the ide will be seen in emacs.
>>> Learn emacs' flavour of auto-complete (dabbrev and others). Rectangles and
>>> serious macros and so much more await you.
>>>
>>> And maybe someday you will help in getting jdee back up to snuff.
>>>
>>>> On 05/01/2015 04:19 PM, Javier Mares Romero wrote:
>>>> Good people of JDEE,
>>>>
>>>> I'm a new user and, even though I can compile, upon emacs startup I get
>>>> the following errors:
>>>> Package lmenu is obsolete!
>>>>
>>>> Package sregex is obsolete!
>>>>
>>>> And when I try to compile, I get:
>>>>
>>>> The JDE does not recognize JDK 1.8 javac. Assume JDK 1.6 javac?(yes or no)
>>>>
>>>> Upon saying yes, it seems to compile just fine.
>>>>
>>>> Environment data:
>>>>
>>>> - OSX Yosemite
>>>>
>>>> - Emacs 24.4.1
>>>>
>>>> - JDK 8u45
>>>>
>>>> This is my entire .emacs file:
>>>>
>>>> ;; Load JDEE code and use it when loading Java source files.
>>>> (add-to-list 'load-path "~/.emacs.d/jdee-2.4.1/lisp")
>>>>
>>>> (load "jde")
>>>>
>>>> How can I fix these? Is this a problem?
>>>>
>>>> Even though I'm relatively new to Emacs and software engineering, I have
>>>> come to believe in long term commitment to emacs. I would therefore like
>>>> to ask you: What do you think of the features mentioned in this article,
>>>> features which IntelliJ possesses and Emacs currently lacks? Many of them
>>>> seem quite useful. Is there a chance they will eventually become available
>>>> in Emacs?
>>>> Thank you very much.
>>>>
>>>> My best,
>>>> Javier
>>>>
>>>>
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