I can certainly look into it. No promises; gotta keep the day-job happy.
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Paul Landes <lan...@mailc.net> wrote:
> Correct. Is that something with which you could help?
>
>
> On May 5, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Lanning <lann...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Has anybody had any luck teaching Emacs about Java syntax?
> Last I looked there wasn't proper support for generics, or
> try-with-resources, or lambdas.
> When I say "proper support" I mean indentation and font-lock at a minimum.
>
> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Paul Landes <lan...@mailc.net> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Rob for your comments.
>>
>> The main issue is there are not enough developers to get it back up to
>> snuff--only maintain what we have. JDEE is very large and IMO it needs to
>> be reduced to eliminate bloat and then expand through a more flexible
>> plugin framework.
>>
>> It's been my plan for many years to fork it implementing some design
>> changes but this is a lot of work all at one time for one person. It is
>> even more work to keep use a new fork code base and continue developing
>> Java with JDEE, which is what I currently do.
>>
>> Most of the original authors of JDEE don't write Java anymore, but if
>> there is enough interest a new fork and I had others to help out I'd think
>> more seriously about embarking on such a project in the shorter term.
>>
>> Basic technology stack I was thinking:
>>
>> - Maven :all builds, dependencies, project related stuff resides in a pom
>> (regardless of if you choose to use maven as a build tool).
>> - Clojure: I've been using Clojure now for the last year or so and have
>> decided for very practical reasons to use it instead of a CommonLisp based
>> JVM language (i.e. Armed Bear/ABCL)
>> - Leiningen (http://leiningen.org): mostly for the Clojure Java
>> integration side stuff but there might be something useful on the project
>> setup side as well.
>> - Cider: I'm currently using nrepl, but I hear this is the new direction
>> for Clojure/Emacs integration.
>> - Move semantic functionality to some JVM based API. Upside is this gets
>> rid of some limitations and complexity of semantic, but increases
>> complexity on the JVM side.
>> - Investigate some of the Eclipse libraries (not IDE) to see if there
>> could be some reuse. That said, I'm reluctant to do too much with this as
>> a lot of their work involves dumping a JVM and reloading because of the way
>> class loading works.
>> - Move to Github
>>
>> Regarding the Eclipse libraries: Ideally there would be no class loading
>> at all and we could use some library (written in Java or any other
>> language) to do everything Beanshell currently does. The code generation
>> would be straight forward, but the reflection would be hard since it
>> currently uses ASM to compile and then class load what you've written.
>> However, Eclipse is able to grok your code and do things like method
>> completion before it successfully compiles it. I have to believe they have
>> some library (or use a third party library) to do this and it doesn't
>> involve class loading.
>>
>> I started to investigate dynamic class reloading in Clojure and I've
>> found the facility does indeed exist, but is less accessible. I started to
>> look at a library on git that makes class loading straight forward, but it
>> appears this library is no longer compat with newer versions of Clojure.
>>
>> If there are any volunteers, i.e. someone more familiar with the Eclipse
>> code base, maybe someone can look into what libraries would work.
>>
>> In the past, discussion like this has lead to more discussion but no
>> action. Maybe something will change.
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 1, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Rob Sargent <robjsarg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Javier,
>> You have hit the usual bumps. Some, with persistence you will smooth out.
>> Others, no so much. There may or may not be current effort on JDEE, I
>> cannot really tell.
>>
>> I can however assure you that your 'long term commitment to emacs' will
>> reward you many fold. Don't be afraid to use to the ides (Eclipse,
>> NetBeans are free and powerful alternatives to IntelliJ). They do their
>> one job well. They all suck as editors. Turn on auto-revert-mode for your
>> java files and any edit's you do make in the ide will be seen in emacs.
>> Learn emacs' flavour of auto-complete (dabbrev and others). Rectangles and
>> serious macros and so much more await you.
>>
>> And maybe someday you will help in getting jdee back up to snuff.
>>
>> On 05/01/2015 04:19 PM, Javier Mares Romero wrote:
>>
>> Good people of JDEE,
>>
>> I'm a new user and, even though I can compile, upon emacs startup I get
>> the following errors:
>>
>> Package lmenu is obsolete!
>>
>> Package sregex is obsolete!
>>
>> And when I try to compile, I get:
>>
>> The JDE does not recognize JDK 1.8 javac. Assume JDK 1.6 javac?(yes or
>> no)
>>
>> Upon saying yes, it seems to compile just fine.
>>
>> Environment data:
>>
>> - OSX Yosemite
>>
>> - Emacs 24.4.1
>>
>> - JDK 8u45
>>
>> This is my entire .emacs file:
>>
>> ;; Load JDEE code and use it when loading Java source files.
>> (add-to-list 'load-path "~/.emacs.d/jdee-2.4.1/lisp")
>>
>> (load "jde")
>>
>> How can I fix these? Is this a problem?
>>
>> Even though I'm relatively new to Emacs and software engineering, I have
>> come to believe in long term commitment to emacs. I would therefore like to
>> ask you: What do you think of the features mentioned in this article
>> <http://henrikwarne.com/2012/06/17/programmer-productivity-emacs-versus-intellij-idea/>,
>> features which IntelliJ possesses and Emacs currently lacks? Many of them
>> seem quite useful. Is there a chance they will eventually become available
>> in Emacs?
>>
>> Thank you very much.
>>
>> My best,
>> Javier
>>
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