Dave wrote:

Oh ... hmm ... I thought the bot folks had just _gotten_ the patent. . .

- Dave


Before they get a claim, copyright or patent, etc. they sorely need spellchecking and grammar software. ;-) ...unless they have applied a patent for words like "*collaberate*". It makes an amusing read. :-)

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On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 09:42:01AM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:

IIRC, the bot folks applied for a patent. There's a big difference between
applying and receiving. :)

Peter

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On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Dave wrote:


Well, if prior art didn't prevent that bot buddy company from getting
patents on IM bots, what's to make us think Integrity Messenger won't
be able to patent IM itself?

A tad paranoid, and borderline delusional,
- Dave


On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 01:22:44PM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:

On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Tijl Houtbeckers wrote:


And don't forget this part of their website:

http://www.integritymessenger.com/about.php

quote:
"
It is that desire that has propelled Integrity Messenger to strive for excellence, and achieve industry first technologies never before seen in an Instant Messaging solution. **Many of the technologies within the Integrity Messenger are presently being filed for patent.** (my emphasis)
Integrity Messenger would like to thank The Jabber Foundation at this time for allowing us to temporarily infrastructure our software on their server solution while we prepare to launch our own XML/SIP based server. Special thanks to David (the Founder) and Peter for their invitation to join their network."
Note that they consider Dave Smith to be the "Founder" of Jabber. I had
several long telephone conversations with these folks, and Dave joined me
on one of them. Somehow they got the notion that he founded Jabber. Not
sure how, though.

While I don't seek to minimize Justin's pain in dealing with these people,
I think it's important to understand that they are not a major threat to
the Jabber community. My strong impression from talking with them is that
they were incompetent, paranoid, and borderline delusional. Whether they
lack basic moral scruples or just don't know what they are doing, I'm not
sure (I tend toward the former but I like to give people the benefit of
the doubt). But I can tell you that their supposed patent applications
will not be successful if they are attempting to patent things related to
or based on Jabber -- the Jabber community possesses evidence of prior art
going back to at least the summer of 1999, and Integrity Messenger is a
much more recent creation.

Peter

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