>From Slashdot: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/08/15/1350230&mode=thread&tid=155
>From the Patent Office: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/net ahtml/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=ft00&s1=activebuddy&OS=activeb uddy&RS=activebuddy -----Original Message----- From: Dave [mailto:dave@;dave.tj] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JDEV] integrity messenger questions Okay, if two people remember the announcement being about an _application_ for a patent and not of a _granted_ patent, I'll shut up :-) - Dave On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 12:49:25PM -0800, Sameer Verma wrote: > Dave wrote: > > >Oh ... hmm ... I thought the bot folks had just _gotten_ the patent. . . > > > > - Dave > > > > > > > Before they get a claim, copyright or patent, etc. they sorely need > spellchecking and grammar software. ;-) ...unless they have applied a > patent for words like "*collaberate*". It makes an amusing read. :-) > > Sameer > > -- > Sameer Verma, Ph.D. > Asst. Professor of Information Systems > San Francisco State University > San Francisco CA 94132 USA > http://verma.sfsu.edu/ > > > >On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 09:42:01AM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > > > > > >>IIRC, the bot folks applied for a patent. There's a big difference between > >>applying and receiving. :) > >> > >>Peter > >> > >>-- > >>Peter Saint-Andre > >>Jabber Software Foundation > >>http://www.jabber.org/people/stpeter.php > >> > >>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Dave wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Well, if prior art didn't prevent that bot buddy company from getting > >>>patents on IM bots, what's to make us think Integrity Messenger won't > >>>be able to patent IM itself? > >>> > >>>A tad paranoid, and borderline delusional, > >>> - Dave > >>> > >>> > >>>On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 01:22:44PM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Tijl Houtbeckers wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>And don't forget this part of their website: > >>>>> > >>>>>http://www.integritymessenger.com/about.php > >>>>> > >>>>>quote: > >>>>>" > >>>>>It is that desire that has propelled Integrity Messenger to strive for > >>>>>excellence, and achieve industry first technologies never before seen > >>>>>in an Instant Messaging solution. **Many of the technologies within the > >>>>>Integrity Messenger are presently being filed for patent.** (my > >>>>>emphasis) > >>>>> > >>>>>Integrity Messenger would like to thank The Jabber Foundation at this > >>>>>time for allowing us to temporarily infrastructure our software on > >>>>>their server solution while we prepare to launch our own XML/SIP based > >>>>>server. Special thanks to David (the Founder) and Peter for their > >>>>>invitation to join their network." > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>Note that they consider Dave Smith to be the "Founder" of Jabber. I had > >>>>several long telephone conversations with these folks, and Dave joined me > >>>>on one of them. Somehow they got the notion that he founded Jabber. Not > >>>>sure how, though. > >>>> > >>>>While I don't seek to minimize Justin's pain in dealing with these people, > >>>>I think it's important to understand that they are not a major threat to > >>>>the Jabber community. My strong impression from talking with them is that > >>>>they were incompetent, paranoid, and borderline delusional. Whether they > >>>>lack basic moral scruples or just don't know what they are doing, I'm not > >>>>sure (I tend toward the former but I like to give people the benefit of > >>>>the doubt). But I can tell you that their supposed patent applications > >>>>will not be successful if they are attempting to patent things related to > >>>>or based on Jabber -- the Jabber community possesses evidence of prior art > >>>>going back to at least the summer of 1999, and Integrity Messenger is a > >>>>much more recent creation. > >>>> > >>>>Peter > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>Peter Saint-Andre > >>>>Jabber Software Foundation > >>>>http://www.jabber.org/people/stpeter.php > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>jdev mailing list > >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev > >>>> > >>>> > >>>-- > >>>When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows", people just stare > >>>at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, *for free*". > >>> -- Linus Torvalds > >>> > >>>Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste > >>> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] put this on Tshirts in '93 > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>jdev mailing list > >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>jdev mailing list > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > jdev mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev -- When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows", people just stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, *for free*". -- Linus Torvalds Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] put this on Tshirts in '93 _______________________________________________ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev _______________________________________________ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
