Oh ... hmm ... I thought the bot folks had just _gotten_ the patent. . . - Dave
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 09:42:01AM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > IIRC, the bot folks applied for a patent. There's a big difference between > applying and receiving. :) > > Peter > > -- > Peter Saint-Andre > Jabber Software Foundation > http://www.jabber.org/people/stpeter.php > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Dave wrote: > > > Well, if prior art didn't prevent that bot buddy company from getting > > patents on IM bots, what's to make us think Integrity Messenger won't > > be able to patent IM itself? > > > > A tad paranoid, and borderline delusional, > > - Dave > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 01:22:44PM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Tijl Houtbeckers wrote: > > > > > > > And don't forget this part of their website: > > > > > > > > http://www.integritymessenger.com/about.php > > > > > > > > quote: > > > > " > > > > It is that desire that has propelled Integrity Messenger to strive for > > > > excellence, and achieve industry first technologies never before seen > > > > in an Instant Messaging solution. **Many of the technologies within the > > > > Integrity Messenger are presently being filed for patent.** (my > > > > emphasis) > > > > > > > > Integrity Messenger would like to thank The Jabber Foundation at this > > > > time for allowing us to temporarily infrastructure our software on > > > > their server solution while we prepare to launch our own XML/SIP based > > > > server. Special thanks to David (the Founder) and Peter for their > > > > invitation to join their network." > > > > > > Note that they consider Dave Smith to be the "Founder" of Jabber. I had > > > several long telephone conversations with these folks, and Dave joined me > > > on one of them. Somehow they got the notion that he founded Jabber. Not > > > sure how, though. > > > > > > While I don't seek to minimize Justin's pain in dealing with these people, > > > I think it's important to understand that they are not a major threat to > > > the Jabber community. My strong impression from talking with them is that > > > they were incompetent, paranoid, and borderline delusional. Whether they > > > lack basic moral scruples or just don't know what they are doing, I'm not > > > sure (I tend toward the former but I like to give people the benefit of > > > the doubt). But I can tell you that their supposed patent applications > > > will not be successful if they are attempting to patent things related to > > > or based on Jabber -- the Jabber community possesses evidence of prior art > > > going back to at least the summer of 1999, and Integrity Messenger is a > > > much more recent creation. > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > -- > > > Peter Saint-Andre > > > Jabber Software Foundation > > > http://www.jabber.org/people/stpeter.php > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > jdev mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev > > > > -- > > When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows", people just stare > > at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, *for free*". > > -- Linus Torvalds > > > > Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste > > -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] put this on Tshirts in '93 > > _______________________________________________ > > jdev mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev > > > > _______________________________________________ > jdev mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev -- When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows", people just stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, *for free*". -- Linus Torvalds Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] put this on Tshirts in '93 _______________________________________________ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
