> Well my MSN messenger 6 at home tells me I am using a symmetric > NAT, and it also does so at work via both of our ADSL lines, > one a watchguard firewall, and one an ADSL router/firewall > which as luck would have it has UPnP.
Hmm..interesting. What brand is the router? > Im in the UK and IP allocation seems fine but I expect it is > worse in other countries, but surely a client would be able > to present the user with a message indicating that it cannot > connect because of problems with the ISP, so users wouldnt > be tempted to blame the software. Ah - yes, however the only way you will actually *know* that your ISP has NATed you is by using a STUN server or similar to figure that out. Your UPnP router won't tell you this. ...unless you want to pop up a message telling the user that it's the ISP's fault every time anything goes wrong of course ;-) Michael. _______________________________________________ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://jabberstudio.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev
