Maybe there's a misunderstanding ... I created a "jenkins-icon" module (a simple java jar containing just the icon taglib). It doesn't depend on anything in Jenkins - it just depends on Stapler. Jenkins core depends on this module to get the icon tag. Plugins can also independently depend on that module to get the icon tag. Where's the circular dependency?

On 01/07/2014 00:27, Stephen Connolly wrote:
You can't update core to use the plugin, as circular dependency... So as soon as you want to use your tag in core your plugin is... Oh look its a shim!

Would a rose by any other name smell as sweet?

On Monday, 30 June 2014, Tom Fennelly <tom.fenne...@gmail.com <mailto:tom.fenne...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Hi.

    We're in the process of creating a new <icon> in the hope of
    allowing more control over icons in the UI [1]. As part of that,
    we want to allow plugins that adopt this new tag to remain
    backward compatible with older versions of Jenkins.

    Up to now, the convention seems to have been that all core jelly
    taglibs (forms etc) live in Jenkins core and plugins get them from
    there:

    
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    Of course, this means that a given plugin has a dependency on a
    particular version of Jenkins on which it is installed.  For that
    reason, we talked [1] about creating "shim" plugin.  This would be
    a plugin that defines an intermediate icon tag (maybe call it
    <icon-shim>) that has Jenkins version switching code inside it i.e.

        if (jenkinsVersion >= 1.571) {

            // use new <l:icon> tag ...

        } else {

            // use display icon in traditional way (as <img>)

        }


    
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    This all seemed a bit clumsy/ugly/messy to me, requiring multiple
    icon related tags... plugin release management for the shim plugin
    etc etc.  So I decided to try creating a simple <icon> taglib jar
    (i.e. not putting the <icon> taglib in Jenkins Core).  Then,
    Jenkins Core and whatever plugins wish to upgrade (to using the
    new <icon> tag) simple add this new taglib as a dependency,
    independently of each other.  So long as the <icon> taglib does
    not use anything in a newer release of Jenkins, then the plugin
    should work all the way back down the Jenkins releases:

    
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    I have some code here [2].  It works fine from a Jenkins Core
    perspective.  I'm going to change the Credentials plugin now and
    test that it works on new and old versions of Jenkins.  I'm fairly
    confident it will.  The icon taglib is currently in an "icon"
    module of the root the project.  I know that's probably not a good
    long-term location - if the idea sticks, we can easily move it to
    a new home.

    So.... what's "wrong" with doing it this way Vs using a "shim"
    plugin ? :)

    [1]
    https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/jenkinsci-dev/GOiQdvctBB0
    <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21topic/jenkinsci-dev/GOiQdvctBB0>
    [2] https://github.com/tfennelly/jenkins/compare/icon-tag
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