I agree that adding bundled plugins just makes life more complex.

In my view Jenkins would come bare bones empty... BUT you could upload a
zip of plugins and Jenkins would install all required dependencies from
that zip.

That way, if I am in an isolated network I just need the zip and the war to
be downloaded.

People could provide a service to generate such war files on demand based
on a plugin selection for example.

If Jenkins already has a newer version of one of the plugins in the war,
then that would be left as is.

On Friday, August 7, 2015, Vincent Latombe <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I agree with Jesse, bundling new plugins is just pushing back the problem.
> What we really need is a better first time experience and I think Arnaud's
> wizard proposal makes sense.
>
> 2015-08-06 22:34 GMT+02:00 Jesse Glick <[email protected]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 1:56 AM, Kohsuke Kawaguchi <[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>> > We add the following plugins and their dependencies:
>> >
>> > git
>> > parameterized-trigger
>> > workflow
>>
>> -1, no new bundled plugins.
>>
>> > Then remove the following plugins:
>> >
>> > cvs (split from core in 1.340, 929KB)
>> > ant (split from core in 1.430, 90KB)
>> > maven-plugin (split from core in 1.296, 11MB)
>>
>> +1. While you are at it, get rid of external-monitor-job which I think
>> few people use.
>>
>
> You could add windows-slaves to this list.
>
>
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