I work in an industry which is inherently conservative about adding new stuff into their environments. So, I honestly think that this question might not affect only newcomers.
Since we started using Jenkins we have set up our own plugin hub for internal plugins (with backend-update-center) and allowed direct access the default public repository as well. Soon people started questioning the credibility of the public plugins, and some suggested to create a sort of moderation to filter "unverified" plugins. There are several reasons for concern, but what's my point here? Most people take the bundled plugins as reliable. Some plugins would not be accepted in some enterprises if they weren't "native" features. Of course, the rule works in the other direction as well. If the bundled plugin gives a bad experience, the whole tool feels like a bad experience. Personally I don't know in which side I am. There are cons and pros. In any case, whatever the butler serves should be very well served! Plugins come with responsibility. One feature that could leverage the credibility issue is to have some sort of ratings or so right in the plugin manager view, or "Verified" labels maybe. Anyway, this is another topic... On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 9:12:38 AM UTC+2, Vincent Latombe wrote: > > I agree with Jesse, bundling new plugins is just pushing back the problem. > What we really need is a better first time experience and I think Arnaud's > wizard proposal makes sense. > > 2015-08-06 22:34 GMT+02:00 Jesse Glick <[email protected] <javascript:> > >: > >> On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 1:56 AM, Kohsuke Kawaguchi <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> > We add the following plugins and their dependencies: >> > >> > git >> > parameterized-trigger >> > workflow >> >> -1, no new bundled plugins. >> >> > Then remove the following plugins: >> > >> > cvs (split from core in 1.340, 929KB) >> > ant (split from core in 1.430, 90KB) >> > maven-plugin (split from core in 1.296, 11MB) >> >> +1. While you are at it, get rid of external-monitor-job which I think >> few people use. >> > > You could add windows-slaves to this list. > > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Jenkins Developers" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CANfRfr30OJnOB%2BAfeTJPpPXk4gCSW-HuCyEdW-fF%3DGwphcgHVA%40mail.gmail.com >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/a17faff3-5594-49b7-a28a-da0cbc96446d%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
