Hi,

Just FYI, we have got a reply from Gregory in the separate thread. Now you
have an authorization from the original maintainer, hence you can proceed
with the release once you are ready.

See you tomorrow!

Best regards,
Oleg

2016-11-28 16:20 GMT+01:00 Jacob Larfors <ja...@larfors.com>:

> Hi Oleg,
>
> That's great - I saw the meeting summary so thanks for bringing this to
> light. I spoke with our plugin developer on Friday and we will get the
> plugin updated and ready for release whilst we wait for a reply from
> gboissinot and prepare a branch on the jenkinsci project ready for a pull
> request.
>
> Hopefully see you at the CoDe Conf tomorrow so we can talk about this a
> bit more.
>
> Safe travels with Lufthansa.
>
> Best Regards,
> Jacob
>
>
> On Saturday, 26 November 2016 07:58:30 UTC+1, Oleg Nenashev wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jacob,
>>
>> On Wednesday we agreed with the proposed plan. Here is the meeting
>> summary: http://meetings.jenkins-ci.org/jenkins-meeting/2016/jenkins-
>> meeting.2016-11-23-18.00.html
>>
>> We agreed that I and Daniel will make the last attempt to reach out the
>> original plugin maintainers with a final 2-week timeout. If we do not get a
>> response, we will grant you the release permissions, no need in plugin
>> renaming, etc.
>>
>> I have granted you push permissions to https://github.com/jenkinsci/k
>> locwork-plugin, hence you can start integrating changes there. I kindly
>> recommend to consider using Pull requests and CCing
>> jenkinsci/code-reviewers at the first steps (just to get some knowledge
>> transfer). It is also recommended to update Jenkins core dependency to
>> something newer and to use the new parent POM.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Oleg Nenashev
>>
>>
>>
>> среда, 23 ноября 2016 г., 11:19:27 UTC+3 пользователь Jacob Larfors
>> написал:
>>>
>>> Many thanks for helping so much with this. The plan sounds good to me.
>>>
>>> My Jenkinsci account is: jlarfors
>>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Jacob
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:05:20 UTC+1, Oleg Nenashev wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have added the the topic to the agenda of the tomorrow's governance
>>>> meeting: https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Governance+Meeti
>>>> ng+Agenda#GovernanceMeetingAgenda-Nov23meeting
>>>>
>>>> Jacob, could you please provide your Jenkinsci account?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Oleg
>>>>
>>>> вторник, 22 ноября 2016 г., 17:44:02 UTC+1 пользователь Oleg Nenashev
>>>> написал:
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition to this thread, I have tried to reach out Gregory directly
>>>>> without success. Since he has left his original company as well as his
>>>>> companion from citools org, it is a low chance we can proceed in the 
>>>>> common
>>>>> way.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had an f2f discussion with Jacob at Embedded Conference Scandinavia.
>>>>> We discussed the current state and agreed on the following:
>>>>>
>>>>>    1. Oleg will grant him an access to the klocwork repository within
>>>>>    the jenkinsci organization (an existing repo)
>>>>>    2. Jacob will push the current changes in citools org and then
>>>>>    proceed with preparing the release in pull requests (he can use
>>>>>    jenkinsci/code-reviewers in order to get help with onboarding)
>>>>>    3. Oleg will try to reach out Thales directly on behalf of the
>>>>>    Jenkins core team (in order to propose the ownership handover)
>>>>>    4. If we do not get a response from Thales, we will submit a topic
>>>>>    to the Governance meeting with 2 options:
>>>>>       - Fork of a plugin with renaming/package name changes
>>>>>       - Just a takeover of the plugin by the Jenkins community (with
>>>>>       temporary revokation of upload permissions for original maintainers 
>>>>> to
>>>>>       avoid mess if they come back and do not notice this thread)
>>>>>
>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Oleg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> среда, 16 ноября 2016 г., 16:11:58 UTC+1 пользователь Oleg Nenashev
>>>>> написал:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any revival of this plugin will be appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately, we cannot just fork the repository and start releasing
>>>>>> from it. It may be considered as a highjacking of the plugin. Plugin
>>>>>> maintainers commonly do not sign Jenkins CLA, hence we have no formal
>>>>>> permission to do so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we should fork the plugin to jenkinsci and start preparing it
>>>>>> to the release with patches (including stuff like CI, parent POM update,
>>>>>> etc.). If the maintainer does not respond, likely the only valid option
>>>>>> will be to rename plugin and to change packages to avoid data conflicts.
>>>>>> But it will require much work to implement the proper migration code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've added Gregory Boissinot to Cc. Maybe he could suggest the proper
>>>>>> contact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BR, Oleg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> вторник, 15 ноября 2016 г., 14:13:29 UTC+1 пользователь Jacob Larfors
>>>>>> написал:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok I tried contacting the other maintainer/user at cittools and his
>>>>>>> email address for Thales does not work, so I suspect he has left 
>>>>>>> Thales. As
>>>>>>> there has also been an outstanding pull request since July, and our
>>>>>>> attempts to contact the people at cittools has failed, I would assume 
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> repository is no longer taken care of...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What options do we have? Can we make the jenkinsci repository the
>>>>>>> "main" one and we will get our commits there? There arent really any 
>>>>>>> valid
>>>>>>> PRs/FRs in Jira, and the few that are we could look to transfer or fix, 
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> we quite actively work on this plugin and have been shipping hpi files 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the past few years to avoid this mess and bottleneck of waiting for
>>>>>>> cittools.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 15 November 2016 14:59:06 UTC+2, Jacob Larfors wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Daniel, appreciate the quick feedback and thanks for the info -
>>>>>>>> that answered another question I had about why the jenkinsci repo even
>>>>>>>> existed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would prefer to use the jenkinsci repo to avoid any future
>>>>>>>> issues/bottlenecks. I have made one last attempt at contacting cittools
>>>>>>>> because we tried contacting the owner of the repository for some time 
>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>> (gboissinot) with no luck.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Should this not work, is there some way we can push our commits to
>>>>>>>> the jenkinsci repository and make this the one linked in Jenkins (i.e. 
>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>> the cittools repo redundant)? I assume that can be done without needing
>>>>>>>> cittools, but I will await a response from them out of courtesy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Jacob
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 15 November 2016 14:46:39 UTC+2, Daniel Beck wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We cannot grant access to repositories outside the jenkinsci
>>>>>>>>> GitHub organization. Which is one of the reasons why we strongly 
>>>>>>>>> recommend
>>>>>>>>> that plugins be maintained in that organization.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We can only grant access to https://github.com/jenkinsci/k
>>>>>>>>> locwork-plugin and you'd need to sync the existing commits over.
>>>>>>>>> This however will not transfer existing issues and PRs in the cittools
>>>>>>>>> repo. IOW, it's a giant clusterfuck thanks to maintainers maintaining
>>>>>>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I recommend you contact cittools and coordinate what to do with
>>>>>>>>> them. I can then transfer the repo as needed, and delete the one in
>>>>>>>>> jenkinsci that appears to have never been used.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > On 15.11.2016, at 12:58, Jacob Larfors <ja...@larfors.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Maybe someone can help me out, but a few weeks back I posted
>>>>>>>>> about commit access to the Klocwork plugin, following a pull request 
>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>> colleague, and neither have been answered... We really want to push 
>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>> great features out there but our hands our tied :)
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > If anyone knows how who to contact to get some action or even to
>>>>>>>>> apply for a transferral of ownership for a plugin that would be great.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > This is the plugin in question: https://github.com/cittools/kl
>>>>>>>>> ocwork-plugin
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > My github account: jlarfors
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Thanks for the help!
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Jacob
>>>>>>>>> >
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