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I want to be clear: I was not singling you out or criticizing. This looks
like a challenging thread, and you're doing a great job staying positive
and open to ideas.

If there's anything I can do to help just say so.

Thanks for all your hard work,
Liam Newman

On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 11:24 PM Ewelina Wilkosz <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Thanks for keeping your eye on it Liam, I will take necessary actions this
> week!
>
>
> On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 8:26:45 PM UTC+2, Liam Newman wrote:
>>
>> Ewelina, Nicolas,
>>
>> I'm jumping in because I don't see anyone mentioning who will be doing
>> this.
>>
>> As JEP-1 sponsor, I would like to remind you that part of your duties as
>> sponsors of JEP-201 include different viewpoints and design suggestions in
>> your JEP. (I'm jumping in because I don't see anyone mentioning who will be
>> doing this.)  Even if you choose not to use the suggestions, they need to
>> be represented in the "Reasoning" section.
>>
>> Just as Jesse pulled this feedback to a discussion here so it wouldn't be
>> lost in IRC, it will need to be distilled from this extended discussion to
>> be added to the JEP.  Here's two examples of "Reasoning" sections with
>> significant content:
>>
>> https://github.com/jenkinsci/jep/tree/master/jep/1#reasoning
>> https://github.com/jenkinsci/jep/tree/master/jep/200#reasoning
>>
>> It looks to me like there are at least three threads here: automatic
>> symbol inference, YAML Map syntax and Credentials, and Replacing  Job DSL
>> Groovy syntax. There might also be a general list of features that have
>> been deemed out-of-scope for the current release.
>>
>> You may ask Jesse if he'd be willing to submit PRs (adding to
>> "Specification" or "Reasoning"), but ultimately it is your responsibility
>> to make sure it happens.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -L.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 11:31:30 PM UTC-7, Ewelina Wilkosz wrote:
>>>
>>> interesting discussion!
>>>
>>> I agree we can have a nicer way of configuring job, to keep the
>>> consistency, but I also agree with Nicolas about not wanting to "re-invent
>>> the wheel" - many users have their job dsls ready, so the transition may be
>>> easier if they don't need to learn a new syntax, that was my motivation for
>>> keeping job dsl. Alternative solution may exist next to job dsl support I
>>> believe
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 6:53:58 AM UTC+2, nicolas de loof wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2018-04-18 0:42 GMT+02:00 Jesse Glick <[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 4:45 PM, nicolas de loof
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> > Job class hierarchy is full of hand written JSON parsing
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect such cases are fixable, which would take some work, but on
>>>>> the other hand we would get a clearer code base as a result anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sure, but this will be for future version then
>>>> We want JCasC to support current releases of Jenkins by Praqma
>>>> customers (and others), not require bleeding edge Jenkins core.
>>>>
>>>>
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