Hi Oliver,
Could you please let us know what is your decision about the LTS baseline?
Thanks in advance,
Oleg
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 1:59:11 PM UTC+2, Mark Waite wrote:
+1 from me to choose 2.190 as the baseline.
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 7:39:31 AM UTC-4, Oleg Nenashev wrote:
Great to see the fix!
https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkins/pull/4176
<https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkins/pull/4176> can be
trivially backported, so I think we can go ahead with 2.190 as a
baseline.
BR, Oleg
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 12:54 PM Mark Waite wrote:
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 6:00:13 AM UTC-4, Oleg
Nenashev wrote:
For me 2.187 is a default pick. If somebody investigates
JENKINS-58912
<https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fissues.jenkins-ci.org%2Fbrowse%2FJENKINS-58912&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNG-zP4KRD2k95IS6rp2N1UtzSnNPw>
/
JENKINS-58938
<https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-58938> and
clarifies impact/possibility of a fix for .1, then I am
fine with 190. Cannot commit to investigate it unfortunately
There are some reasons to want 2.190. Apart from emoji
support for job names (yey!) there are some more
meaningful changes like plugin installation
parallelization for Setup Wizard (Jenkins Startup
Experience), security hardening, install-plugin fixes,
and other changes which could help LTS users.
Gabriel Lavoie has submitted a pull request to fix those two
issues. The pull request is at
https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkins/pull/4176
<https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkins/pull/4176> and is
related to the slow trigger monitor that was first released
in 2.189.
I haven't yet been able to interactively verify the problem
myself, but am thrilled that Gabriel was able to do so and
that a pull request has been submitted.
That change leads me towards favoring 2.187, before that
admin monitor was added. I could be persuaded otherwise
(especially considering the security fix that was announced
for today), assuming we also have a fix for the remoting
issue that was reported as
https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-59094
<https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-59094>
Mark Waite
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 11:50:34 AM UTC+2,
ogondza wrote:
So I guess that eliminates 2.191 as a choice for
LTS. I do not feel that
strong choosing between 2.190 and 2.187, and it
appears Oleg and Mark
leans that way.
Any other inputs?
On 27/08/2019 11.15, Oleg Nenashev wrote:
> There is a confirmed regression in Jenkins 2.191
/ Remoting 3.34
>
https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-59094
<https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-59094>
>
> I think it a serious obstacle for this version or
for the tomorrow's
> security fix as a baseline.
>
> BR, Oleg
>
> On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 1:37:18 PM UTC+2,
Mark Waite wrote:
>
> I've started testing 2.190 late Friday. I
did not find any
> immediate reasons to reject it as the LTS.
The security release
> scheduled for Wednesday seems to me like a
good reason to prefer
> choosing 2.190 as a baseline, then update to
the security release as
> the baseline after it is delivered.
>
> I haven't investigated the startup failures
reported in
> JENKINS-58912 and JENKINS-58938.
>
> I'm also concerned about JENKINS-58692 from
the KDE project
> beginning in 2.186. Jesse Glick investigated
it and was unable to
> duplicate it. The KDE project found a
workaround (install the
> symlinks plugin) and can't really explore
other options because it
> is their production system. JENKINS-58692
will affect 2.186 and
> later, so it seems relevant to investigate
further as a risk to any
> LTS version we select.
>
> I prefer the upcoming security release as the
baseline, but
> JENKINS-58912 and JENKINS-58938 need
investigation before the LTS
> is released.
>
> Mark Waite
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 6:28 AM Oleg Nenashev
<[email protected]
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
> I would vote for 2.187 as a baseline. FTR
>
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/jenkinsci-dev/oQ8PD1hgYBE
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/jenkinsci-dev/oQ8PD1hgYBE>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/jenkinsci-dev/oQ8PD1hgYBE
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/jenkinsci-dev/oQ8PD1hgYBE>> for
> the mailing list selection process proposal.
>
> For the anticipated absence of a
government meeting, we will be
> selecting next LTS candidate here, on
the mailing list. The
> conclusion
> will be wrapped up no longer than
Tuesday 27th COB UT
>
>
> We have a security release on Wednesday.
Assuming it is stable,
> we could use it as a baseline.
>
> If we discuss only released versions
> https://jenkins.io/changelog/#v2.189
<https://jenkins.io/changelog/#v2.189>
> <https://jenkins.io/changelog/#v2.189
<https://jenkins.io/changelog/#v2.189>> has a pretty
bad
> community rating. JENKINS-58912
>
<https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-58912
<https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-58912>> /
> JENKINS-58938
>
<https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-58938
<https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-58938>> looks
to be
> a pretty bad regression somewhere, but
nobody has investigated
> the issue so far. It is not clear when
and why it happens. I am
> not sure we are safe to go into LTS with
it. So 2.187 is my
> preference (2.188 was burned)
>
> BR, Oleg
>
>
> On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 11:00:47 AM
UTC+2, ogondza wrote:
>
> For the anticipated absence of a
government meeting, we will be
> selecting next LTS candidate here, on
the mailing list. The
> conclusion
> will be wrapped up no longer than
Tuesday 27th COB UTC time.
> Feel free
> to share your thoughts here.
>
> ---
>
> I believe we affectively only have 2
candidates[1], 2.189
> and 2.190.
> Since 2.190 has relatively few
changes in it, all minor, got
> 2 weeks of
> soaking with nothing but positive
community feedback, I vote
> to choose
> that despite being the latest weekly
published.
>
> [1] https://jenkins.io/changelog/
>
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