Matt, Which Jenkins weekly is the first version that includes plugin install batching?
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:11 AM Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote: > I'd really love to see the plugin install batching feature integrated > into LTS as that comes up a _lot_ during local testing, especially > whenever I work on security fixes for Jenkins as we use LTS branches > for development there. > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 6:09 AM Mark Waite <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > I hope to spend some hours investigating those two after work today > (JENKINS-58938 and JENKINS-58912). I'm traveling so have less access to my > environment, but will spend some time trying to duplicate the issue and > identify the change which caused it. > > > > 2.187 seems reasonable, assuming the security fix is backported. Would > the fix to those two issues be a critical factor in choosing 2.190 > instead? 2.190 does not have remoting 3.34, so it avoids that regression. > > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 6:00 AM Oleg Nenashev <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> For me 2.187 is a default pick. If somebody investigates JENKINS-58912 > / JENKINS-58938 and clarifies impact/possibility of a fix for .1, then I am > fine with 190. Cannot commit to investigate it unfortunately > >> > >> There are some reasons to want 2.190. Apart from emoji support for job > names (yey!) there are some more meaningful changes like plugin > installation parallelization for Setup Wizard (Jenkins Startup Experience), > security hardening, install-plugin fixes, and other changes which could > help LTS users. > >> > >> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 11:50:34 AM UTC+2, ogondza wrote: > >>> > >>> So I guess that eliminates 2.191 as a choice for LTS. I do not feel > that > >>> strong choosing between 2.190 and 2.187, and it appears Oleg and Mark > >>> leans that way. > >>> > >>> Any other inputs? > >>> > >>> On 27/08/2019 11.15, Oleg Nenashev wrote: > >>> > There is a confirmed regression in Jenkins 2.191 / Remoting 3.34 > >>> > https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-59094 > >>> > > >>> > I think it a serious obstacle for this version or for the tomorrow's > >>> > security fix as a baseline. > >>> > > >>> > BR, Oleg > >>> > > >>> > On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 1:37:18 PM UTC+2, Mark Waite wrote: > >>> > > >>> > I've started testing 2.190 late Friday. I did not find any > >>> > immediate reasons to reject it as the LTS. The security release > >>> > scheduled for Wednesday seems to me like a good reason to prefer > >>> > choosing 2.190 as a baseline, then update to the security > release as > >>> > the baseline after it is delivered. > >>> > > >>> > I haven't investigated the startup failures reported in > >>> > JENKINS-58912 and JENKINS-58938. > >>> > > >>> > I'm also concerned about JENKINS-58692 from the KDE project > >>> > beginning in 2.186. Jesse Glick investigated it and was unable > to > >>> > duplicate it. The KDE project found a workaround (install the > >>> > symlinks plugin) and can't really explore other options because > it > >>> > is their production system. JENKINS-58692 will affect 2.186 and > >>> > later, so it seems relevant to investigate further as a risk to > any > >>> > LTS version we select. > >>> > > >>> > I prefer the upcoming security release as the baseline, but > >>> > JENKINS-58912 and JENKINS-58938 need investigation before the > LTS > >>> > is released. > >>> > > >>> > Mark Waite > >>> > > >>> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 6:28 AM Oleg Nenashev < > [email protected] > >>> > <javascript:>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > I would vote for 2.187 as a baseline. FTR > >>> > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/jenkinsci-dev/oQ8PD1hgYBE < > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/jenkinsci-dev/oQ8PD1hgYBE> for > >>> > the mailing list selection process proposal. > >>> > > >>> > For the anticipated absence of a government meeting, we > will be > >>> > selecting next LTS candidate here, on the mailing list. > The > >>> > conclusion > >>> > will be wrapped up no longer than Tuesday 27th COB UT > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > We have a security release on Wednesday. Assuming it is > stable, > >>> > we could use it as a baseline. > >>> > > >>> > If we discuss only released versions > >>> > https://jenkins.io/changelog/#v2.189 > >>> > <https://jenkins.io/changelog/#v2.189> has a pretty bad > >>> > community rating. JENKINS-58912 > >>> > <https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-58912> / > >>> > JENKINS-58938 > >>> > <https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-58938> looks > to be > >>> > a pretty bad regression somewhere, but nobody has > investigated > >>> > the issue so far. It is not clear when and why it happens. I > am > >>> > not sure we are safe to go into LTS with it. So 2.187 is my > >>> > preference (2.188 was burned) > >>> > > >>> > BR, Oleg > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 11:00:47 AM UTC+2, ogondza > wrote: > >>> > > >>> > For the anticipated absence of a government meeting, we > will be > >>> > selecting next LTS candidate here, on the mailing list. > The > >>> > conclusion > >>> > will be wrapped up no longer than Tuesday 27th COB UTC > time. > >>> > Feel free > >>> > to share your thoughts here. > >>> > > >>> > --- > >>> > > >>> > I believe we affectively only have 2 candidates[1], 2.189 > >>> > and 2.190. > >>> > Since 2.190 has relatively few changes in it, all minor, > got > >>> > 2 weeks of > >>> > soaking with nothing but positive community feedback, I > vote > >>> > to choose > >>> > that despite being the latest weekly published. > >>> > > >>> > [1] https://jenkins.io/changelog/ > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > oliver > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >>> > Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. > >>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from > >>> > it, send an email to [email protected] > <javascript:>. > >>> > To view this discussion on the web visit > >>> > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/2577f42d-5a15-4995-b5f8-a97de6a60fe7%40googlegroups.com > >>> > < > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/2577f42d-5a15-4995-b5f8-a97de6a60fe7%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer > >. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > Thanks! > >>> > Mark Waite > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>> > Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. > >>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send > >>> > an email to [email protected] > >>> > <mailto:[email protected]>. > >>> > To view this discussion on the web visit > >>> > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/8346a1c4-ca52-4f6f-b89a-f00bb0eb48e2%40googlegroups.com > >>> > < > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/8346a1c4-ca52-4f6f-b89a-f00bb0eb48e2%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer > >. > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> oliver > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected]. > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/f36d1d5c-4d1d-42a2-bdfe-f364fea457c2%40googlegroups.com > . > > > > > > > > -- > > Thanks! > > Mark Waite > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected]. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAO49JtGeGsjwX7vfYBFuVfNNEfgEUk8sVAmcNqZS5%3DmifGAiNg%40mail.gmail.com > . > > > > -- > Matt Sicker > Senior Software Engineer, CloudBees > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Jenkins Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAEot4oxEuFJm1%2BqqufyTcbduw9ZLyUW3a4qz_bk1w5%2BZ%3DFjNdQ%40mail.gmail.com > . > -- Thanks! 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