Sounds reasonable to me +1, I speak as someone who barely ever touches Windows and never for Jenkins though
Thanks Tim On Friday, 10 April 2020 13:26:51 UTC+1, Oleg Nenashev wrote: > > Dear all, > > As you probably know, Jenkins core and some plugins contain native code, > and hence they rely on operating systems and platforms. In principle > Jenkins can run everywhere where you can run Java 8 or Java 11, but in > practice there are some limitations. Notably we use Java Native Access and > Java Native Runtime libraries which provide wide support for platforms, but > there are other components. In the case of Windows platforms we use Windows > Service Wrapper (WinSW) <https://github.com/winsw/winsw> and Windows > Process Management Library (WinP) <https://github.com/kohsuke/winp>, > which depend on Windows versions and, in the case of windows services, on > .NET Framework. > > In the Jenkins Platform SIG <https://jenkins.io/sigs/platform/> we have > an open topic about Windows support policy in Jenkins. Currently we have no > documented support policy for Windows, and it becomes an obstacle for > maintainers of Windows-focused components and plugins in the > Jenkins project. As a maintainer of WinSW and WinP, I have to be very > conservative about Windows support. But it comes at a cost to users, not > just maintenance overhead. At the end of the day it also blocks us from > adopting new Windows features and making Jenkins more stable/maintenable on > modern Windows platforms. > > I know for sure that there are Jenkins users running on Windows XP, but > IMHO it becomes more and more legacy use-case. Last popular industry > version had EoL in 2019 (WinXP Exmbedded POSReady > <https://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-xp-dies-final-death-as-embedded-posready-2009-reaches-end-of-life/>), > > and IMO it is time to drop WinXP support in new Jenkins releases. Same goes > to 32bit systems and non-mainstream architectures like Itanium, we could > at least reduce the support level there. > > I suggest the following policy: > > - All installers and service wrappers require Windows 7 / Windows > Server 2012 or above (and .NET framework 4.0+). They support 64bit > platforms only. Support for other platforms are provided via manual > jenkins.war deployment > - Jenkins master runtime requires Windows 7 / Windows Server 2012 or > above. It may work on older versions, but we do not guarantee compatibility > - Jenkins agent runtime requires Windows 7 / Windows Server 2012 or > above. It may work on older versions, but we do not guarantee compatibility > - For all Windows service installations .NET Framework 4.0 or above is > required. It is a default version in Windows versions specified above > - Jenkins master and agent Docker images are not required to provide > images for the supported platforms. They can move ahead as maintainers > prefer > - Plugins can define their own support policy, but they are strongly > advised to align their Windows support policy with the Jenkins Core > versions. > - We have no way to communicate potential Windows support issues > via update center at the moment, so following the Jenkins core > requirements > is what we can recommend as the best option > - Custom Jenkins packaging may have different requirements > (Jenkinsfile Runner, WARs built by Custom WAR Packager) > > Would appreciate feedback from maintainers and Windows users! Any comments > and change suggestions are welcome. > > If other Plaftorm SIG folks agree with me, I would suggest to add this > area to the Jenkins Roadmap <https://jenkins.io/project/roadmap/>. I also > created a JENKINS-61865 > <https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-61865> EPIC to track > changes there. I will create tasks in the EPIC once there is a consensus in > this thread. > > Best regards, > Oleg Nenashev > Platform SIG > > > > > > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/c755618e-b046-44b9-b155-38fdaba6d214%40googlegroups.com.
