My favorite is Jenkins server. I'll use whatever term is ultimately selected, but "Jenkins server" is easier for me than "Control Plane".
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:13 AM Jeff Thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > My favorite is "Jenkins server" or something like that. There are already > existing usages and it's reasonably explanatory. Something with "manager" > could also work, but I don't find the term as clean and clear. > > Outside of bias issues, one of the problems with whitelist and blacklist > is that the terms don't really say what they do. Sometimes the > interpretation depends on which way you're looking at it. Somewhat similar > to whether a class hierarchy goes up or down. > > "AllowList" and "DenyList" are good matching pairs that convey more > semantics about what they do. > > In other discussions we have noted that not all usages of > whitelist/blacklist fall into the same behavioral meaning. Sometimes we > will need to use different terminology to better convey the meaning. > > Jeff > On 6/12/20 3:20 AM, Oleg Nenashev wrote: > > I am +1 for changing the terminology, and I encourage Jenkins contributors > to participate in this effort. It is not something we could change in a > minute, but we could do a gradual cleanup and improve the overall > documentation while doing so. > > I am -1 w.r.t "host" due to the following reasons: > > - Host term is very generic, it has thousands of usages in Jenkins > https://github.com/search?q=org%3Ajenkinsci+host&type=Code. Choosing > this term will require a careful cleanup to avoid confusion in user > documentation and the codebase > - "agent host" is often used to describe target hosts for outbound > agents > > My suggestion would be to consider a *"Jenkins server"* term. You can see > that such a term is already used in our codebase > <https://github.com/search?q=org%3Ajenkinsci+%22Jenkins+server%22&type=Code>, > website > <https://github.com/jenkins-infra/jenkins.io/search?q=%22jenkins+server%22&unscoped_q=%22jenkins+server%22>and > on 3rd party resources > <https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Jenkins+server%22&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCH837CH837&oq=%22Jenkins+server%22&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l7.2969j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8> > . > > Best regards, > Oleg > > On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 6:42:34 AM UTC+2, Marky Jackson wrote: >> >> It is a suggestion for consideration if you would like. >> >> On Jun 11, 2020, at 9:35 PM, Richard Bywater <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Good point. I actually wonder if Manager is a reasonable replacement? >> >> On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 at 16:04, Marky Jackson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> The concern with controller may be a conflict with Kubernetes on Jenkins >>> given the same name. This was originally my suggestion but than I >>> remembered I was also part of renaming in that community. >>> >>> > On Jun 11, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Richard Bywater <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Jenkins Developers" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAAy0hwcrbnGua2b3sHamE2AG1r3z8cXBxA02%2B4NrQHMWqQjzyg%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAAy0hwcrbnGua2b3sHamE2AG1r3z8cXBxA02%2B4NrQHMWqQjzyg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Jenkins Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/4ffdf650-4bb4-4878-a629-4e49c3ac06b5o%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/4ffdf650-4bb4-4878-a629-4e49c3ac06b5o%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Jenkins Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/e024d4a9-09e1-ff95-3bbc-a35d486e21ed%40cloudbees.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/e024d4a9-09e1-ff95-3bbc-a35d486e21ed%40cloudbees.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAO49JtH%3DNGuf%2BEOoh9gXyOY53vx761aV-w4V07hA7SxwZ%2B_Q1A%40mail.gmail.com.
