My favorite is Jenkins server.  I'll use whatever term is ultimately
selected, but "Jenkins server" is easier for me than "Control Plane".

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:13 AM Jeff Thompson <jthomp...@cloudbees.com>
wrote:

> My favorite is "Jenkins server" or something like that. There are already
> existing usages and it's reasonably explanatory. Something with "manager"
> could also work, but I don't find the term as clean and clear.
>
> Outside of bias issues, one of the problems with whitelist and blacklist
> is that the terms don't really say what they do. Sometimes the
> interpretation depends on which way you're looking at it. Somewhat similar
> to whether a class hierarchy goes up or down.
>
> "AllowList" and "DenyList" are good matching pairs that convey more
> semantics about what they do.
>
> In other discussions we have noted that not all usages of
> whitelist/blacklist fall into the same behavioral meaning. Sometimes we
> will need to use different terminology to better convey the meaning.
>
> Jeff
> On 6/12/20 3:20 AM, Oleg Nenashev wrote:
>
> I am +1 for changing the terminology, and I encourage Jenkins contributors
> to participate in this effort. It is not something we could change in a
> minute, but we could do a gradual cleanup and improve the overall
> documentation while doing so.
>
> I am -1 w.r.t "host" due to the following reasons:
>
>    - Host term is very generic, it has thousands of usages in Jenkins
>    https://github.com/search?q=org%3Ajenkinsci+host&type=Code. Choosing
>    this term will require a careful cleanup to avoid confusion in user
>    documentation and the codebase
>    - "agent host" is often used to describe target hosts for outbound
>    agents
>
> My suggestion would be to consider a *"Jenkins server"* term. You can see
> that such a term is already used in our codebase
> <https://github.com/search?q=org%3Ajenkinsci+%22Jenkins+server%22&type=Code>,
> website
> <https://github.com/jenkins-infra/jenkins.io/search?q=%22jenkins+server%22&unscoped_q=%22jenkins+server%22>and
> on 3rd party resources
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Jenkins+server%22&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCH837CH837&oq=%22Jenkins+server%22&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l7.2969j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8>
> .
>
> Best regards,
> Oleg
>
> On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 6:42:34 AM UTC+2, Marky Jackson wrote:
>>
>> It is a suggestion for consideration if you would like.
>>
>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 9:35 PM, Richard Bywater <ric...@bywater.nz> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Good point. I actually wonder if Manager is a reasonable replacement?
>>
>> On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 at 16:04, Marky Jackson <marky....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The concern with controller may be a conflict with Kubernetes on Jenkins
>>> given the same name. This was originally my suggestion but than I
>>> remembered I was also part of renaming in that community.
>>>
>>> > On Jun 11, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Richard Bywater <ric...@bywater.nz>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>>
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