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On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 6:01 PM, dc tech <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thank's Edson. Will check it out.
> Drools seems to have come a long compared to when I last looked at it -
> given that you have a foot in both camps, any wisdom and guidance would much
> appreciated. My bias is towards Jess, perhaps since I got introduced to
> rules engines with the excellent Jess book but is it worth looking at
> Drools?  I like the interactive 'protype'ability with Jess using the shell
> (still on 6.1). Does Drools have similar intractivity? We are developing
> using j
> jRuby (RoR) or Java.
> Thanks!
> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Edson Tirelli <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>   May I suggest you take a look at Tohu?
>>
>> http://community.jboss.org/wiki/Tohu
>>
>>   It is a small framework to do, it seems, exactly what you
>> described. It is built on top of Drools, but even if you prefer to
>> write your own framework on top of Jess, it can probably give you
>> ideas for your own design. Need to say, though, that I never used it
>> myself, so not sure how good/bad it is, but the video demo is nice.
>>
>> > Lets not forget, even the Drools reference area (and JBoss Rules /
>> > Drools Developer Book) recommends you read: "Jess in Action: Java 
>> > Rule-based
>> > Systems"
>>
>>   It is an excellent book for people that want to learn about
>> Rule-based Systems, so why not recommend it? :) Being a Drools
>> developer, I can tell you that we always had a good relationship with
>> the Jess community, and we have much more to gain by cooperating than
>> competing. That is not to detract from one engine or the other, it is
>> just the open source way of promoting innovation and education and
>> building upwards from the shoulders of the giants that came first...
>> :)
>>
>>   Cheers and Happy New Year!
>>
>>   Edson
>>
>>
>> 2010/12/31 dc tech <[email protected]>:
>> >>> Perhaps a little, but not greatly. ....
>> > Am happy to hear. Jess was my first introduction to rules engines 4-5
>> > years
>> > back but did not use it for a production system. Now we are looking to
>> > build
>> > a 'guided navigation' type of app using Jess where the rules determine
>> > what
>> > steps does a user need to do. I am really excited to be able to use a
>> > rules
>> > engine for that type of application; I am sure many of you have built
>> > similar things. Will keep you posted on questions/findings/lessons.
>> > Not having done real development for many years, I really enjoyed using
>> > the
>> > Jess shell (still v6, from the book) and actually build small prototypes
>> > with rules.
>> > Agree on the Drools making rules more accessible.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Socrates Frangis
>> > <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Agree with Donald, were on holiday.
>> >>
>> >> "Any impact from things like jBoss rules or other engines?"
>> >> -Perhaps a little, but not greatly. I will applaud Red Hat for
>> >> exposing more and more people to rule engines through open source
>> >> however.
>> >>
>> >> With that said, I think the many users of Jess stick with it due to
>> >> it's maturity and 'rule engine features' as apposed to the convenient
>> >> bundling of open source middle-ware. I have the feeling that many will
>> >> get introduced to rule engines through Drools now, but when searching
>> >> for something that gets the job done they will sway elsewhere.
>> >>
>> >> Lets not forget, even the Drools reference area (and JBoss Rules /
>> >> Drools Developer Book) recommends you read:
>> >> "Jess in Action: Java Rule-based Systems"
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:26 AM, dc tech <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > Rejoining the Jess community after a multi-year hiatus and notice
>> >> > that
>> >> > the
>> >> > mailing list has been very quiet.  I am curious to see how Jess is
>> >> > doing
>> >> > now
>> >> > a days? Any impact from things like jBoss rules or other engines? Is
>> >> > the
>> >> > community still pretty active?
>> >> > Happy Holidays to everyone !
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> V/R
>> >> -Socrates Frangis
>> >> -Mathematician & Software Engineer
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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