This is a little like asking "I'm drinking Sauternes and I like it a lot -
should I look at Burgundy?"

If you are not willing to do your homework (i.e., the evaluation of the pros
and cons of these two systems for your own development and deployment
scenario) yourself, the answers you'll get on either list for your question
won't be able to help you much because the list of salient evaluation
criteria is long, and a serious assessment requires intimate knowledge of
your situation.

>From a technician's point of view I'd say that it never hurts to look at
another system to widen your horizon. The only risk I can see is that it
might make you yearn for a system that has all of the goodies. ;-)

-W


On 2 January 2011 00:01, dc tech <dctech1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank's Edson. Will check it out.
> Drools seems to have come a long compared to when I last looked at it -
> given that you have a foot in both camps, any wisdom and guidance would much
> appreciated. My bias is towards Jess, perhaps since I got introduced to
> rules engines with the excellent Jess book but is it worth looking at
> Drools?  I like the interactive 'protype'ability with Jess using the shell
> (still on 6.1). Does Drools have similar intractivity? We are developing
> using j
> jRuby (RoR) or Java.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Edson Tirelli <ed.tire...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>   May I suggest you take a look at Tohu?
>>
>> http://community.jboss.org/wiki/Tohu
>>
>>   It is a small framework to do, it seems, exactly what you
>> described. It is built on top of Drools, but even if you prefer to
>> write your own framework on top of Jess, it can probably give you
>> ideas for your own design. Need to say, though, that I never used it
>> myself, so not sure how good/bad it is, but the video demo is nice.
>>
>> > Lets not forget, even the Drools reference area (and JBoss Rules /
>> Drools Developer Book) recommends you read: "Jess in Action: Java Rule-based
>> Systems"
>>
>>    It is an excellent book for people that want to learn about
>> Rule-based Systems, so why not recommend it? :) Being a Drools
>> developer, I can tell you that we always had a good relationship with
>> the Jess community, and we have much more to gain by cooperating than
>> competing. That is not to detract from one engine or the other, it is
>> just the open source way of promoting innovation and education and
>> building upwards from the shoulders of the giants that came first...
>> :)
>>
>>   Cheers and Happy New Year!
>>
>>   Edson
>>
>>
>> 2010/12/31 dc tech <dctech1...@gmail.com>:
>> >>> Perhaps a little, but not greatly. ....
>> > Am happy to hear. Jess was my first introduction to rules engines 4-5
>> years
>> > back but did not use it for a production system. Now we are looking to
>> build
>> > a 'guided navigation' type of app using Jess where the rules determine
>> what
>> > steps does a user need to do. I am really excited to be able to use a
>> rules
>> > engine for that type of application; I am sure many of you have built
>> > similar things. Will keep you posted on questions/findings/lessons.
>> > Not having done real development for many years, I really enjoyed using
>> the
>> > Jess shell (still v6, from the book) and actually build small prototypes
>> > with rules.
>> > Agree on the Drools making rules more accessible.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Socrates Frangis <
>> soc.fran...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Agree with Donald, were on holiday.
>> >>
>> >> "Any impact from things like jBoss rules or other engines?"
>> >> -Perhaps a little, but not greatly. I will applaud Red Hat for
>> >> exposing more and more people to rule engines through open source
>> >> however.
>> >>
>> >> With that said, I think the many users of Jess stick with it due to
>> >> it's maturity and 'rule engine features' as apposed to the convenient
>> >> bundling of open source middle-ware. I have the feeling that many will
>> >> get introduced to rule engines through Drools now, but when searching
>> >> for something that gets the job done they will sway elsewhere.
>> >>
>> >> Lets not forget, even the Drools reference area (and JBoss Rules /
>> >> Drools Developer Book) recommends you read:
>> >> "Jess in Action: Java Rule-based Systems"
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:26 AM, dc tech <dctech1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Rejoining the Jess community after a multi-year hiatus and notice
>> that
>> >> > the
>> >> > mailing list has been very quiet.  I am curious to see how Jess is
>> doing
>> >> > now
>> >> > a days? Any impact from things like jBoss rules or other engines? Is
>> the
>> >> > community still pretty active?
>> >> > Happy Holidays to everyone !
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> V/R
>> >> -Socrates Frangis
>> >> -Mathematician & Software Engineer
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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